Denime

[Abochka]

Thanks for the info guys, definitely elucidates things. 

[Abochka]

Alright...which one of you did I just get into a bidding war with (and lose) for the W36 A type that @beautiful_FrEaK linked??

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Not me.

 

Edit: also a ridiculous price. Funnily nobody bid yesterday. Maybe the seller had a hand in the bidding as well

[Abochka]

51 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Not me.

 

Edit: also a ridiculous price. Funnily nobody bid yesterday. Maybe the seller had a hand in the bidding as well

Yea, insane price. Sad to not have gotten those though, but happier not to have spent 700 dollars on jeans. 

[reallypeacedoff]

Now that WOMJ is done, onto the 220A until end of the year.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Different product, better price. Small sizes though

https://zenmarket.jp/de/yshoppingproduct.aspx?itemCode=mitoman_178-74552&q=&p=1&pos=5

[winteracr]

decent progress on the 220A from my last post in may. i think beautiful_FrEaK noticed this on his pair too but they start fading faster after a couple washes
these really hold on to their starch, they felt pretty rigid through 4 washes until i tossed em in the dryer. contrary to other opinions, they're not thaat comfortable to me. between the high rise and fitted top block, i don't have a ton of mobility without feeling restriction in the crotch or knees

Edited July 19 by winteracr

[Well27]

First day of wear.

Really like the fit, they are stil fairly crunchy/starchy.

Went to the park with the baby.

[Alec Leamas]

On 7/13/2026 at 8:03 AM, Well27 said:

Based on the great info and advise (thx @Alec Leamas and @PBTony) in this thread, I purchased the 220xx-47.

From the measurements, I decided to go one size up to w36 - I'm probably also increasing in size of lately.

The jeans will be my own mini-contest, as I'm currently on parental leave and will wear these as much as possible during the leave and see how they turn out

Currently the temperatures in Denmark are too warm to wear jeans, so looking forward to a slight drop in temperature.

They're looking great mate good choice!!

..and enjoy the parental leave!

[Well27]

First wash after 6 days…. Kids are messy.

the jeans shrank slightly more, which i don’t mind.

the denim have turned slight more blueish from the dark blue/grey at the start and it’s interesting with the brown hues. they are still a bit starchy

[PBTony]

5 hours ago, Well27 said:

First wash after 6 days…. Kids are messy.

the jeans shrank slightly more, which i don’t mind.

the denim have turned slight more blueish from the dark blue/grey at the start and it’s interesting with the brown hues. they are still a bit starchy

Looks good! I've got some Ishikawadai 66 ordered. Looking forward to trying Denime/warehouse again. Hoping for some fuzzy denim 

[wifimethod]

Been looking for a slightly wider straight orrizonti era pair thru mercari and JP Auctions. Anyone have any info on any models to keep an eye out for? I love the idea of the 66 or 220 but they are too slim for my liking, would much prefer a Late 30s cut or a 50s cut. I've come across some pairs in decent condition but theres no indication on the lot.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

You want a classic pair of XX model. There is no certain lot number.

You can share a link and I can identify 

[Well27]

4 hours ago, PBTony said:

Looks good! I've got some Ishikawadai 66 ordered. Looking forward to trying Denime/warehouse again. Hoping for some fuzzy denim 

Nice, please share photos when you get them

[wifimethod]

1 hour ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

You want a classic pair of XX model. There is no certain lot number.

You can share a link and I can identify 

I believe I like both the s-type and the XX, I know the shins era has both, but unsure about finding a Orizzonti . Heres an example of what I am in search of 
https://buyee.jp/paypayfleamarket/item/r1076419778?conversionType=crosssearch

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Well, that is the S Type from the Orizzonti era. They were a cheaper model than the XX model back in the days but that has nothing to say. I dont know which denim exactly they use but should be lighter than the XX denim.

[Well27]

Great jeans, the 220xx-47.

Trying to wear them when the temperatures permits it.

Today in the park, including Tezomeya and Flower Mountain

Edited August 11 by Well27

[PBTony]

Denime 224 66 Ishikawadai. Wanted a 66/big e pair with a red tab. Great fabric. They have got darker after a wash it seems.

I washed at 40 and the waist is still a bit too big but the rise shrunk a full inch to 11 inches now which is pretty low for me. I could do with the waist going down a bit more but wouldn't want to rest to shrink. So on the fence with these

The fabric feels light yet crispy? Nice leg twist after just one wash.

Ignore the black crocs white socks.

 

[NilsLW]

Nice, they look perfect. I know this is a pair I will have to try sometime.
What's the waist measurement on these post wash?

[PBTony]

On 8/13/2026 at 10:19 AM, NilsLW said:

Nice, they look perfect. I know this is a pair I will have to try sometime.
What's the waist measurement on these post wash?

The denim is lovely. They measure 17 inches flat and were 18 inches raw. Or just under 18. 

I think if I keep I'll have to stick to washing only at 30 and no dryer. And always use a belt. 

It's a shame the 221 big E isn't in the same fabric as I would prefer that pattern

 

Edit. 2nd wash and waist measured flat is now 16 inches

Edited August 15 by PBTony

[Well27]

3. Wash, still chrunchy

Edited August 23 by Well27

[winteracr]

Any advice for removing the deep crease on the side from washing/drying? Steaming, ironing, and dryer machine have not worked for me. I don’t care about the fade, just want to flatten the fabric when wearing.

[CSL]

Perhaps wet them through and hang in a way where they are not flattened?
Usually the wind blowing through will dry in a way that side creases are avoided.

 

[airtight_provenance]

I've used a 3:1-ish water to white vinegar mixture to iron out set-in creases. My results were so-so but they were really established hem creases. I didn't get any stains or anything but your mileage may vary. Put the mixture in a spray bottle, turn the pants inside out, spray the area until pretty wet and then iron the crease out.

[yung_flynn]

Here are some photos of my Shins era Kyoto pair. Legs are a bit wrinkly from traveling 

[Well27]

5. Wash

with two kids under 4, I have forgotten how it feels like to wear stain-free clothes for more than 15 minutes. F’kin oatmeal.

the jeans and fit are great, have softened up nicely and the slightest fades have begun to show.

the patches had become quite soft and flexible.

 

Edited September 10 by Well27

[reallypeacedoff]

Loving this denim!

[NilsLW]

Bello!!