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@julian-wolf I’ve never been one for upscale T shirts but the dyeing on the tezos really looks nice. How do you find their sizing? Runs a little small tells me to go for an M. More true to size makes it more complicated.

@beautiful_FrEaK the 47's look good on everyone. If there is a disagreement, the wearer is the problem, not the jeans. I'm sure you understand this deep down.

@MJF9 and your denim jackets?

Could the weight discrepancy just be between raw and one wash? Denime’s XX denim is 14.5 oz raw - so that would be about 15.5-16 oz after a wash I’d imagine.

@Hopethisoneisnttaken that's been my hang up. I am not a shirt tuck in sort of guy. I can do short in length pullovers/sweatshirts and jackets, but tucking in...haven't been able to find comfort in it. I'll do it when the situation calls for it, but in my life that's fairly rare. I may revisit come winter because wool was what I thought about.

Not here. Vests in general hold little interest to me. There's a dividing line somewhere in the workwear spectrum that is hard for me to define, but I know that when something is on the other side of it, it's not for me. Even if I liked vests, this would fall on the other side of that line. Kudos to anyone who rocks it though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/style/benjamin-talley-smith-denim-jeans.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare This guy annoys the heck out of me. He thinks he "made" jeans in nearly everyone's closet. Aside from his language stripping the actual garment workers of what they did, I'm quite happy there's nothing in my closet he's had anything to do with. I don't tend to follow a lot of fashion journalism but Vanessa Friedman in particular always seems a little out to lunch with her columns, especially when it comes to denim, and apparently her guests too.

Those look great. What has your washing schedule been like? I have a whole slew of 0105's just waiting to really get started on - I love the cut, but I also have some jeans I want to get through first. Problems.

Thanks for posting. I’ve definitely considered their trousers a few times, so I wouldn’t mind knowing more.

I’ve gone on a run these past 18 months and need to tone it down. Excuse my arcane signifying system. I’m too tired to think of something better. Haven’t sold hardly anything and really don’t want to, though this may change at some point. I think I have a bigger problem with jackets. * = active rotation, ! = in storage closet, X = well worn, mostly dormant Tender 129 (Woad, size 2)- X Tender 132 (Achilles Heel, size 3)- ! Freewheelers 601xx 1951 (30) - * Freewheelers s601xx 1944/45, (30) BNWT - ! TCB 20’s (31) - * TCB 30’s, black, BNWT, (31) - ! Indigofera Kirk, Gunpowder (29), - X Warehouse 1003xx 1946 (29), - * Sugar Cane, Edo Ai (30),- x MFSC - Lot 64 Midnight Denim (29) - * MFSC - Lot 64 Midnight Denim (30) - ! Ooe Yufukuten OA01XX-0522 (31) - * and most worn currently Ooe Yufukuten SOA03XXD-0823, BNWT (32) - ! Fullcount 0105 (30) - ! Fullcount 0105bk (30) - * Fullcount 0105xx (30) - ! Fullcount 0105SS (29) - * Awaiting Freewheelers lot 601xx RB (30)

I’ll keep an eye on this as I’m going to be out near Edinburgh for a week or so in late June. Visiting family but still might be able to steal off to see a site or three. For me, bonus if it’s friendly for a three year old.

The xx4 denim in my 01’s is soft, but not more than FC’s. It also has formed creases quite well and held them - actually more than almost anything I’ve worn in recent years. Not that I’m usually wearing stuff known for that. I’m probably just at about 2-3 months of total wear on them and only ever did the initial hot soak and hand wash with a good bit of hand agitation. We’ll see what the second wash does, we’re not there yet.

I spent five years in NC and I’m never living south again if I can help it. Even DC is further than I’d go haha. (But, better!) I know some people love it. We get 4 real seasons here and it’s one of my favorite things in life. Housing, coming from Austin, would probably seem pretty reasonable too! Winters do get some people down - the sun can go away for a good while. You’ve got to get outside. For me, I like that. Lots of chances to wear all those great jackets.

Oh man that’s a haul and I really feel for the lack of wearable days you’ve got. Michigan would suit you well and then you can even get all the FW Great Lakes gear with the utmost appropriateness. These last few years a lined denim jacket can get you through even a lot of winter days, though that won’t be true in the northern parts.

I really tend to not enjoy excess waistband - which is why a more generous cut through the leg is welcome. Sizing up is a look, and yes it seems to be more embraced. I’ve got a couple of pairs I went that route on, but in general it’s nice to have something that fits relatively proper sans belt IMO. In the end I think you get what feels right - sizing down is riskier obviously. Speaking of Full Count - I love the 0105 cut (because you don’t need to size up the waist for something really comfortable) - but their sizing is all over the place. My 29s in the “super smooth” denim feel half to a whole size larger in the waist (but not the rest of the leg) than my size 30 in the black x white. And my 29 super smooths feel about the same as my 32’s in their chinos! They all came in about as expected - I sized right for what I wanted - but the measurements differed so much for a given item size I was doubting myself.

I found them TTS. They came in a little snug but stretched out and broke in nicely. I find FW is pretty good w reliable sizing - not that getting measurements isn’t a good idea but I trust the tag with them more than most.

The 601 RB jeans yes. That’s all I’m sure about, but I think it’s the whole thing. The 507b - to be honest I’m not sure if it’s old stock but I don’t think so, all I know is I found one. I haven’t seen a new 507RB, but I haven’t gone looking either. I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to what’s being released, it’s more like I go looking for something specific and see if/when it will be around.

I passed on the 42’s but have a black tux coming my way at some point (well, a 507b jacket and 601rb pants, so…almost). Really my discipline has absolutely gone out the window the last two years.

I appreciate the passion but the toy angle just…it’s not for me. Especially with a big logo on it! Nice to get a sense of who’s doing what though.

I thought they shipped internationally but @Signet chime in?

https://thesignetstore.com/collections/warehouse/products/mens-trousers-25th-anniversary-1950-model?variant=32353062256723 - a few sizes it seems

seemed a good opportunity to dip my toes into Yahoo Auctions

If I end up grabbing the FC pair, it will be sort of for fun, and because as I said earlier, I quite like the 0105 cut. Since that cut is a modern concoction it fails in the repro aspect already. But then I’ve never really been interested in the actual replica angle. To my mind there are simply too many variables one can poke holes in and it misses appreciating the thing on its own terms. To get quasi academic for a second, I like to think of Place as a sort of intersection of time and space. Place can never be recreated because of the time aspect, even if the physical space is the same. So the place that made a thing is gone - this is enough for me to let go of the idea of a repro, full stop. Sure you can try to get closer, but the Place that made it is gone. This is freedom. I also used to love perfect stitching and while I still do, I also know that it makes really no practical difference for me. Actually, some of my stuff from sugar cane and full count have what seem to be actual factory flaws that I probably would have been irked by were they a cheap Levi’s version if I had bought when I was younger. I don’t care now, and they even become part of the charm - as long as they’re not structural and really do compromise the life or functionality of the garment. I certainly understand the “it’s played out” angle, but, at the same time it’s funny to see something that was widely thought as charming come to not be simply because it’s been offered more - and especially in the realm of pants that any of our spouses or if not then certainly friends and neighbors would probably say all basically look the same.

My wardrobe reflects that sentiment also (my only ww2 jeans are OA and FW), but I guess I’m glad the people who liked the CSF angle now have more choices without paying that goofball.

Isn’t this the thing people loved about CSF? Is it just now that it doesn’t seem so unique because you can get erratic stitching from brands that used to use straight lines, so it’s played out? I sort of don’t care much either way - as far as bad design goes I’ve seen tons worse from many other brands any time I’m in a regular store - but appreciate that these aren’t so much about the spirit as the letter of the flaws. Japanese industry has been known to make a great copy of something - it doesn’t mean it necessarily cares a whole lot about the origin story of the garment.