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@Jared_Lee do you have any photos of those Deviant contest jeans? I was curious and did a Google image search. Came up with a weird bunch of photos instead.

Usually, I wouldn't be too concerned about fashion, but apparently loose jeans are "in" right now, so I should just ride the wave, eh? 

Thanks everyone, I think that was the healthy dose of tonic that I needed. So my mind's made up to never alter them and I'll either make the fit work or sell them on.

If I engaged in a lot of outdoor pursuits or manual labour, this would have undoubtedly been the perfect fit. It's unfortunate Roy no longer does this sort of work. 

My goodness, that is crazy good. 

@Broarkyup, they were hot washed and dried as soon as I received them, mainly for hygiene's sake. They didn't even shrink a smidge so it's likely they are fully cooked.

Unfortunately, I seem to be shrinking myself, since this pair looks too roomy on me now. 

I considered sending them to Williamsburg Garment Company for all the tailoring work, as they did a mighty fine job of tapering a pair for me once, but I've never tried their waistband reduction. 

They would be preferable over Railcar, given that WGC could still preserve the original waistband button. The back belt loop should hide the cut in the waistband. 

Tough decision, since I'll probably never get them back if I decide to let them go now. 

Thanks @Broark, they are the Peanut Pants in size 31 that I wrote about sometime back. I was lucky to try a size down from the pair I initially bought (size 32), and for a moment it seemed the size 31 was going to work. But I had to be objective about this. The waistband is still a little looser than I'd like and it probably stretched after just a handful of wears, even with a belt, so there is a tendency for the jeans to sag down. The whole fit seems more relaxed than my build can handle. I'm not sure about the chances of finding a size 30, and a 29 probably never existed in the first place.

I'm curious. How many of you would put a pair of Roy through significant alterations (eg. waistband reduction and taper) to get a suitable fit? I understand the sentiment and spirit about Roy's craftsmanship, and that the construction of his jeans shouldn't be messed with. It took a long while to just start thinking of them as a nice pair of jeans. I love the details such as the exposed rivets, shape of the back pockets and the fabric but just can't make the fit work for me.

I know a reliable place that could definitely alter it in a manner that doesn't significantly affect how it looks externally but it would dramatically improve the fit on me. In summary I'm torn about whether to sell them (and never be able to replace them with anything similar) or just bite the bullet and alter.

@Duke Manteeconsidering my toddler son just had a coughing fit and vomited all over himself, right after I spent all that time cleaning and changing him in preparation for bed, I think +10 years sounds about right.

But a glass of Ardbeg whiskey makes everything a little better. 

Oh yeah, the dad bod phenomenon is real. And so are the dad jokes. There was a person on the internet who asked if I were a dad, because I was killing them with bad jokes.

Yikes, those canvas ones are my exact size too. Glad they don’t ship to Australia, or I’m really gonna struggle with that wallet.

Wondering if one of Buaisou’s new projects might include limited runs of products made by Roy as a special “guest appearance”. His machines are one thing, but it’s his handiwork that people will queue up to buy.

Imagine new ranges of jackets, knits, maybe gloves, scarves and caps...and the prices those would command.

Peanut Pants today. As posted previously, I used to have a size 32 which was gigantic and unwearable. With the kind help of a member here and a bit of work, I got myself into a size 31, while he now has a size 32. It worked out great for both of us and we each now have a pair that fits.

Go Roy!!

6 hours ago, Lalafufu said:

Your jeans are famous on Google image search redcast denim fades

how does the shade differ when red cast is fades with a white weft

That's very kind of you to say. This pair actually has a beige weft, which further accentuates the red cast. But I have also seen examples from others that have a much greener cast than I managed to achieve. 

It might have something to do with the frequency of washing, as the indigo dye supposedly oxidises more in the presence of moisture. Being active and sweating in those jeans might achieve the same effect. 

Some examples of one of my oldest pairs, Tanuki's previous red cast denim (they have a new release now, after a hiatus of almost 4 years):

Brand new.

Four months.

This is them at about 6 months.

Seven months.

They are now at about 10 months of wear and shelved as becoming a little tight with all the weight I've put on. Will hopefully get more photos of them shortly, but they seem to be evolving pretty quickly in their later stages.

7 hours ago, shredwin_206 said:

Be ready for prices on Roy items to skyrocket. 
nah any deals now while you can ha

Yeah, it's gonna be "fun" trying to get a pair of Roy now. I got in late on the game. It's a shame to read that Roy is moving on. I'd be curious to see the results of his next project though. 

If he pays it the same obsessive level of detail and quality, the results are gonna be insane. 

^ Yes, true size in these might be a 30. Judging by these, next size down could still be a little large but workable. Tried to contact the seller about shipping but no response yet. Sometimes it’s a challenge even finding people willing to ship to Australia. Next challenge being shipping costs, but that’s always an issue for folks down under.

@chicote thanks for the reassurance. Good advice. Many years ago, I used to wear oversized clothing too, but that stemmed from a lack of style and knowledge rather than intention. I felt much better about myself after the weight loss and going slim fit, so you might imagine my brain having a mini fit when trying on oversized clothing for the first time in years! Perhaps I'll give them a go if I can do some outfits along the lines of Engineered Garments, Beams, or the Japanese outdoor fashion fits that seem to be proliferating these days.

@BrownMetallic wow, that does look good on you. Heading into the big four-oh now, I'd probably only grow sideways at this point, makes sense to have bigger pants in reserve!

@shredwin_206 aye, agree about the bunching around the crotch. These could potentially have that issue, but the fabric drapes so heavily that it doesn't seem that severe. One of my older pairs had the crotch bunch issue caused by a loose top block but very slim thighs. Interestingly the problem went away when I got fat...

@JDelage cheers, I'll give that a shot. I avoided the spin cycle on the most recent wash.

@mpukas thanks, this is a size 32 and the waist is currently sitting around 15.5 inches (flat, or 31 inches doubled). They were apparently 33 inches in their raw state. Might be a miracle if I get more shrink.

Honestly, I'm tempted to just rock them oversized considering how nice they are, although it seems a bit of a waste if they aren't flattering. 

@goodrain thanks, I read that this denim could shrink a lot. I've given them a wash and put them through the dryer inside out on warm, removed when slightly damp. I could potentially try another cycle of soak/wash and dry, but not holding out a lot of hope for that.

@chicote thanks for the headsup on those. A size or two down could work. I noticed them too, tempting, but will need to negotiate on the price! 

Recently got a pair of Peanut pants. I've been hoping to try some straighter fits, but it looks like I bit off more than I could chew (sizing error on an impulse buy, totally my fault). They are over-sized and need to be worn with a belt so they sit near my navel. The rise, thighs and hip area are larger than any other pants I've ever worn. They swallow up my ass, which usually fills most other pants that are sized for my waistline.

Likely already fully shrunk, so I'm SOL for hoping they would be a better fit. On the flip side, they're a great looking pair, fantastic details and stitching, plus a beautiful, heavy, dark and hairy fabric. Wonder if I'll ever look great in them, but here's some quick and dirty photos, fit pics at the end.

Just got these in the mail today after weeks of waiting. Covid-related delays. I was hoping to get into a pair from one of the Osaka 5 and decided to try these black Denime jeans as the price and measurements seemed right. Even the inseam was hemmed to almost the right length and I could use it uncuffed or with a really tiny turnup. The seller indicated they are from the Orizzonti era, but the tag is cut in half and I have no means of telling. They are still nice jeans, obviously washed, no obvious fades except that attractive puckering at the seams, and I'm in love with the leg twist. Stitching is holding up nicely but looks quite uneven compared to my other jeans. The fabric is a real highlight. It just feels so soft, fluffy and hairy, like a hand towel.

I'm curious if anyone can identify these for me and potentially indicate how old they might be. They seem low rise (not complaining, it's great for short people like me) compared to most other jeans I've seen from this brand, the back pockets are high up and near the yoke, and they are also spaced quite wide apart which feels pretty strange. Sorry about the incoming photo dump. But I thought pictures are worth more than words.

1. Fit pics

2. Front and back full length shots. Thread of different colours and thickness, plus the red back pocket tag and paper patch.

3. Close up of paper patch and 4 button fly. In real life, the buttons are a dark, almost brown-black.

4. Close up of the rounded rivets. No photo but the hem of the coin pocket has no selvedge and is chain stitched. Belt loops are slightly raised.

5. Paper patch and back pocket tag (cut in half, attached to the back of the jean leg by a single thread).

6. Orange selvedge line. That fabric just looks and feels real fluffy, both inside and out.

Has anyone seen, tried, or currently own both Gatagata and Petero fabrics? I'm trying to decide between the two as they both look really interesting, but there's a significant price difference between them and I'm not sure what makes the Gatagata worth so much more.

I understand there is 15oz and 18oz Petero as well. Is there much of a difference between them except the weight? Thanks.

Thanks again, most appreciated.

15 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

The model you look for is called 711. It has hidden rivets, a leather patch. It's a 50s inspired cut. Full legs but a rather short rise.

Thanks. Being short and small-sized, I tend to look pretty dumpy in fuller cuts, so I was looking into the 712. Are these the ones with the lowest rise and smallest leg opening? They don’t have the features of the 711, but the cut is definitely most important. Those short inseams are great, I don’t need to hem and never need to cuff.

How's the construction and hardware quality of Resolute? Do any of them come with a leather patch and back pocket hidden rivets? Are there any details that owners particularly enjoy? 

I'm debating between Resolute and Full Count. I might be wrong, but looking at some fade photos, it looks like Full Count may also have rolled back pocket edges. Does anyone have both and can draw some comparisons? Thanks. 

I’m in the market for a new pair, but the competition pair is a hard pass for me as I don’t like the weft colour, and would like a fabric weight in excess of 16oz. There are a lot of interesting jeans around and research keeps bringing up new ones to consider. It’s pretty competitive in this niche market.

Tanuki does make cuts that suit my type pretty well. I also have two pairs that are well over the 6 month mark of effective wear, and can say they definitely make great fabrics with a very solid construction. These older pairs are not as loud as the competition pair, yet still interesting. No complaints about them. They aren’t “cool” here, I know, but they make a solid product.