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It seems like a really good jean, especially for folks who are turned off by usual TCB funkiness and just want something that looks classic and flattering. Almost doesn't feel like a TCB it's so straightforward, like TCB produced something for Warehouse. Pocket bags feel thin is the only caveat I'm noticing so far. I'm not sure if I love them yet because I like the weird stuff, but if I was tempted to retire from this hobby and walk away with 1 pair this would be a reasonable place to get off the train.
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Surprise delivery of the new late 40s jeans today. This is a straightforward straight leg, high rise fit that's going to check a lot of people's boxes. I took a size 36 on these which is 1 size up from my typical TCB size, I'd say these come up slim relative to the tag size.
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Really interesting, thanks for sharing. Is the red color the same as you're wearing in the seasonal lookbook? What is the length and chest measurement on these?
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Thanks for this... a lot of love for these here and also seen a few pics of you all looking good wearing them. I'll try to check them out. And I was wondering about the separate US and JP brands. -
Putting on 1000 dollars of heritage workwear today to work from home and shitpost about rick owens.
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It's just a Japanese market thing. 50s are the smallest relative to the tag. Their more recent models fit closer to tag size.
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Just listed a lot of stuff on ebay including some one off TCB stuff that is out of production. Send me an offer by DM on most items, but the two lined TCB jackets I will probably sit on for a while and wait for a bite. Measurements in the description for each item. Always happy to talk about what I like or don't like about an item and why I'm selling. Denim jackets TCB S40s Jacket Size 46 TCB Storm Cats Drive (Storm Rider repro) Size 44 TCB Hard Working Cat Hero (Blanket lined Wrangler repro) Size 46 Jeans TCB 30's Black/Black Size 34 Sugar Cane 41470 Black Size 33 Warehouse 1105 Size 36 Sax Blue Sweats and Ts Workers for TCB after-hood sweat Size M Workers for TCB Tabby's Stripe t-shirt Size 4 Warehouse 403 sweat Size 44 Salmon Warehouse 450 hooded sweat Size 44 Eggplant 3Sixteen long sleeve T Size M Pink Shoes Yuketen Handsewn Maine Guide 10.5E Khaki flesh out (DEFECTS) John Lofgren M-43 10D Natural flesh out Alden for Brooks Brothers Black Calfskin Tassels Size 10.5C (DAMAGED) Etc Poten Fuji Kinbai Baseball Hat One Size Beige Sun Surf Rayon Hawaiian Shirt Size XL Swallows Flying Beams Plus Wool Sport Coat Size XL Olive
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willi replied to minya's topic in superdenim
Thanks, I appreciate the measurements. Here are length measurements from a few modern shirts I own for reference (same reference points, I measured in cm and rounded to the closest half inch) Oconnell's heavyweight ox (17): ~32 Jake's ox (16.5): ~32 Worker's Modified Fit ox (17): ~29.5 No conclusions from this sample other than oxfords come in many lengths, and 2.5" makes a big difference in how the shirt fits. The shorter length on the Jpress is interesting because I imagine it most commonly paired with a modern low rise jean or chino. -
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Thanks for replies. Aside from hem shape, my interest is in total dress length, or functionally what is the 'tucking margin' of the shirts and has it changed between eras. Some older BBs look very square to me, but I don't have any samples on hand to compare and hard to date from ebay images. -
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Question about OCBDs: Is anyone familiar with how the length of OCBDs has changed over time? Does anyone have vintage BB shirts and can describe the length relative to modern descendants, Kamakura etc? -
Mine worn daily are just starting to show. Pretty evenly spaced parallel ridges orthogonal to the hem. I thought it would look boring but it's fun to have something a little different than the tight roping they are good at. TCB excels at that 'perfect' tight rolling chaintstich everyone is looking for, but I also appreciate that they do it a little differently on each of their models.
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I have hem OCD, and the stage I've reached is that I just leave the hemming to the manufacturer and wear the jeans at whatever length they arrive. Any after wash hemming is going to drive me nuts, but if it arrives a certain way I can accept the hand of god.
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Agree with the distinction between 'expensive' and 'unaffordable'. I don't have an opinion about whether a shoe is expensive, or 'worth' the sum of its parts. Also think that the value of a shoe, or any clothing, is more than the sum of its components and incorporates its cultural value and emotional durability. My concern in this case is very specific, and it's that the market for mocs has rapidly stratified in a way that an item I've considered a daily use staple and a design classic is now a luxury good and a status symbol. Russell now pitches itself as serving an elite club, paraphrasing recent marketing emails. Maybe that's where the market needed to go for this product to exist, but it's a bummer.
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Made in USA footwear is just in a bad place right now. If you need new shoes you just have to pinch your nose and pay what they're asking for. It's good motivation to enjoy what you already own and take care of it. Maybe Japan will fill a niche like they have for every other classic American style. Russell has a following there.
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I think they were just selling sporting clays ready to wear for less than $600, within the last year? Not sure there is a great alternative though?