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It was my 220 that didn’t shrink as much, they ended up about half an inch above tag size. The 221 shrank to exactly tag size, so it’s negligibly the same.

@Geeman thigh on 224 for size 30 is just under 12”/30cm after shrinking, hem at 7.5”/19.5cm.

47 minutes ago, Geeman said:

Interested in seeing what the shrinkage is like in the 224. 

Mine shrunk tag size (30”) in the waist, and are at 32.5” in length, so pretty close to tag size there as well.

@obama np! My 220a and 221 are both w31. And yeah, the waist of the 220a didn't shrink quite as much as the 221 in the same size. 

The denim for the 224 is different from both. Really thick twill lines and visually slubbier after the first wash (warm machine wash on gentle, no detergent).

Interesting, I’ve put my 710 and 711 through the dryer and nothing like that @vexed_wear. Maybe the heat was really high?

Actually, compared to the Kyoto’s, the 224 have a slightly higher rise and are a little slimmer. The Kyoto’s have also been through the dryer, so they have shrunk more and I have a feeling these 224’s could shrink a little more in the waist.

Can confirm that the waist measurement for lot 224 matches the size charts, size 30 was 81cm before wash, shrunk to about 77cm after a warm machine wash and air dry.

Thighs are about 30cm measured at the crotch seam post-wash. Really nice fit, glad I took a size down from my 220a and 221. I’ll post photos soon! My only reference for the fit of these is my Kyotos which are a size 32 but fit similarly.

Mine got delivered today, size 30. I’ll report back on measurements once I grab em from the mailroom. 

I should have placed my order for store pickup and taken a weekend trip up north to make a whole event out of it

On 9/20/2023 at 11:58 AM, julian-wolf said:

Anyone know which retailers are getting which batches?

Not sure if you've seen on social media, but first batch is arriving at S&S now, and the second batch will be going to Barnstormers.

19 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Maybe this one will work better for you?!

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/g1115806727/

(Sniper bid placed)

Edit: cancelled- I think they may still be slightly small in the waist. Can't risk it a second time lol.

Yeah. Interesting cut. It’s very straight and somewhat roomy in the legs, but the top block is very narrow. I could button them raw, but if they shrink even 1cm they’ll be unwearable. Shame, the denim is really nice. 

@julian-wolf So far, still intact. It's a bit curled, but they've probably gotten 3-4 washes in total now and no signs of it falling apart.

Also, I just got the Orizzonti Type-2 XX. They are an amazing fit EVERYWHERE but the hips and waist. 

They are available if anyone wants, size 30, unhemmed/unworn/unwashed- this was the listing: https://jp.mercari.com/item/m18933914565

I pulled my 220s off the shelf and have been living in them for the last 2 days. I forgot how comfortable they are, especially after a run through the dryer.

4 hours ago, reallypeacedoff said:

Went for the Denime but ended up with some 1001XX. Interestingly, the red tab is stitched over into the jean.

Nice score! My 800xx had the tab stitched down the same way, but I just unplucked the threads and its a normal red tab now. I think that helps them skirt legal trouble with Levi, if I had to guess.

Was just reaching out to S&S regarding adding a hem to my pre-order of the SOA03XX. Decided against it after looking at the post-shrink length and wanting to wear these a little long. Most importantly, the first batch should arrive at S&S in the next couple of weeks and shipped shortly after. Excited to see these in person.

6 hours ago, obama said:

Thanks @blooming  I found a pair of 221 in W32 L32 last night and pulled the trigger
 

My 220 was in w32 L30. It fits great length wise with one fold but I haven’t washed it yet.  Trust it will be okay without fold after shrinkage?

I hope the L32 in 221 will not be too long after shrinkage with one fold. 
 

I am cheap. I always think the hemming is costly compared to the cost of the whole jeans 🤷‍♂️

Mine measure about 33.75 in the inseam after shrinking. I can get away with a big single or a moderately sized double cuff.

Lol no problem @obama, thanks bF. I prefer the fit of the 221 due to the lower front rise. I think it looks a little cleaner, but I still like the 220a.

Also, @beautiful_FrEaK, I personally love the coin pockets on my 220a and 221 pairs. I keep my lighter there, and they make it by far the easiest to access of all of my pairs.

On 11/12/2023 at 9:42 AM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

The Type2 has a slimmer top block. The XX is known for hip flare, the XX Type2 is slimmer up there.

This bodes well for how these will fit me. I have fairly high-set hips, so hip flare on anything that isn't super high-rise happens in a weird place on me

12 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

THis auction has a better description of the Type2:

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/1029784873/

Nice, thank you! I'm thinking these may have a similar overall shape to the newer FC 1108, and if so, they will be great.

@AlientoyWorkmachine we shall see how they fit! They run the risk of being slightly small in the waist, so if they don't work for me in the raw state, I'll let you know.

I broke down and ordered those. Interesting @beautiful_FrEaK, I noticed the Type 2 designation as well, was going to look into that but thankfully we have you bF 🤣

While scrolling through those, I found a pair of unwashed/unworn Orizzonti XX's. https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/special/order/confirm/https%3A%2F%2Fjp.mercari.com%2Fitem%2Fm18933914565/13_1/

I think these would be a size too small on me since the waist is the appropriate size in its unwashed state.

21 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Some guys have shared their measurements already (I haven't washed a pair of 221 yet). I think @blooming was one of them.

I don't think I posted full measurements, but I found that they took about two washes to get all of the shrink out. The dryer helped as well, but not as much as I would have originally thought @CharlieMike. If I bought a second pair of these, I'd go one size down since they are slightly bigger in the waist/hips than I'd like. My pair is size 31, and the waist measures about 31.5 after 2 hot washes and a run through the dryer, if that helps.