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Ooe / Farm sweatshirt / WMJ / Quoddy

^ that’s what the 611 was for! 😏 or maybe I just sized a bit generously? It’s funny how loose and free these feel compared to my usual pairs - aside from my sized up 132s, that is.

Good reminder. Seems like, but ... this is a wild ride.

Talk about nonsense. Yep. Currently have a parcel en route, we’ll see what happens to that.

xx4 denim raw and with maybe 10 months of wear. The comparison makes me feel that maybe it’s not as slow fading as I had thought.

Sunny but cold enough to get my favorite sleeping bag back out. Inis meain / jackman / Kapital / WMJ / NBx Lost Art made in UK

This is really just a contest of self discipline / willpower / focus isn’t it? (I suppose laziness and/or brokeness can be a big advantage too)

@Geemanhow do you find them? I’ve run in zero drop Merrell’s for over a decade now, but my mileage has definitely gone down in recent years, only doing 10 or 20 a week now because I train with a lot more variety. The zero drop shoes really helped me improve my running gait and efficiency (cured me of my heel strike tendencies, and i finally broke a 5 min miles when I was 30 in them), but…my ankles and feet are so f*cked from my years on the skateboard I’m wondering if going back to some padding might help in the long run, and make the miles I do kinder. Is there much lateral stability in these things? They look like an ankle sprain waiting to happen to me but I haven’t tried them.

^ Yea I’m not gonna claim any moral high ground here. I have a pair of their skate shoes from 10 years ago or so I still kick around (I got them on clearance). But, as a company they are pretty damn odious, much like Levi’s. I don’t think, even if Levi’s made an actual perfect stitch for stitch reproduction of their vintage jeans I would be interested at this point. Maybe if they kick started White Oak to get up and running again and gave those people back their jobs I’d think about it? But probably not. But I really don’t like Nike personally because of what they did to skateboarding. Nike getting in was a big part of it changing a lot in ways that for me - drove the culture in an uninteresting direction. I appreciate some like the advancements and competitive and institutional nature their entry had a role in ushering in. I didn’t. Smaller skate shoes companies had a much better shot and even stayed somewhat solvent much more often before they entered. Basically, they had a major role in killing off or badly damaging a lot of the brands that would trigger that same nostalgia for me. Funny enough, in my teenage years, my other sport for a good while was distance running - I ran XC - but I always liked running in Asics better and set all my old (mediocre) PR’s in those. Japanese brand. Go figure.

Nah, that antipathy is just fine.

@beautiful_FrEaK I haven’t had that issue, no. I really feel like it fits me well all over, the crop is the only thing to take into account. But also, while I’m not a big guy my traps really are a bit are disproportionately developed (I used to a lot of kettlebell lifting primarily, lots of pulling work) - and the shoulders/chest have been the problem areas for me in some jackets that would otherwise be rightly sized.

^ I feel like they showed signs quickly, but since then they haven’t faded appreciably more. I’m definitely not less active now than I was in the first few weeks. I still think overall the fade is a touch on the faster side but I’m moving my cumulative assessment to closer “average” at this point.

@irual have you looked at Ues? https://japaneseselvagejeans.com/en/collections/denim-jacket/products/w900-j I’ve had the FC type 1 (now sold) and the Ues type 1 is a little longer - or at least I remember it like that - for its comparative size. I have the linen WW2 jacket, but it seems the regular denim one is a little longer. Not quite at your 70 cm but close at 68.

Well, I don’t know. We weren’t carrying the ball and running at eachother or throwing it and weren’t smashing into anyone. None of that. We were only using our feet, so I don’t think football makes sense. Not in good ol murican logic anyways.

I just checked and they are sold out

@Broark was trying to hold out too, really wanted to get to at least 3 months. But took a muddy dive playing soccer with my boy. We’ll see how well the spot cleaning can go on this one...

Just hazarding a guess - legal issues.

@jkbrwnive also had mine for years (stock lenses) and they’re in great shape. The lenses haven’t scratched so they seem robust - optically, I find them quite clear and sharp - no complaints.

Me 20 min ago. I’ve never thought twice about it but if it’s a faux pax it’s one I’m comfortable with all the time. (Feat non visible WMJ!)

Size 35 of the 02 with hidden rivets - this is still in stock. Only catch is the 31 raw inseam, which for me is great. I got a pair here a long time ago that is waiting for some day. https://keylimetokyo.com/en/products/holk-ooe-yofukuten-denim-pants-indigo-blue?variant=47359804113176 I’m blowing up this spot because they’ve had stock here for a long time.

I take the effort heuristic pretty seriously when I recognize AI content in most cases. That is, I skip right over that shit. It could be 100% accurate (it isn’t, usually), but when a real human isn’t taking the time to make it - it’s just not where I want to put my attention. I mostly encounter this in creative mediums, where AI, to me, has produced a gigaton of positively boring digital nonsense. I try to stay open minded and I know there are practical applications but if I were all that practical I probably wouldn’t be on a denim forum either. There are exceptions but the people I see perpetuating the technology and the places I see it coming from in general do no favors for my attempt at open-mindedness.

Could be a leap but I think you’re around my waist size(?). I’d think you’ll be aces. I wear a 31 in my current pair of 01’s - which translates to an 29 normally, and usually I’m better off with a 30 for thigh clearance in most brands. My 01’s are slim up top, but not in a remarkable way. I actually like the cut, I just know it’s not worked for everyone. My old Mister Freedom lot 64s in 29 are tighter everywhere above the knee. My Warehouse DD1003xx (their looser 46 cut) in 29s are similar feeling up top. I did buy my 003’s in a size 32 because I did want more room ultimately, but that was a while ago and they haven’t touched water. I do think S+S models them in a way they wouldn’t be worn, plus that dude is wearing raw sized to fit snugly which you would not do.

I’m gonna pass but S+S still looked to have the smaller sizes. Brief run down 001 - straightish 002 straight with slight taper (60s) 003 - straight (wider hem) top blocks all pretty similar. If you don’t like the top block of one pair for your waist size, time better spent moving on to a different brand most likely, or trying that size up sloppy waist deal.

In most cases I’m a vest holdout. I get the practicality for sure. But, merino base layers do wonders. It’s possible one day I will cave. The one exception for me - three piece suits. I can get into those. Haven’t worn one in years but still.

Yea I was speaking more towards small makers - but, I will be honest, I also know that I don’t have the eye for detail that some you all have. I definitely am more inclined to see a whole thing first and sort of leave it at that if I feel it works. Whether it’s the precision of the construction or historical accuracy, these things never really have captured me all that much. My Ooe’s are wonderful, but, and this despite the narrative about them, I don’t really, not in any meaningful or practical sense anyways, find the stitch work better than on pairs of Freewheelers or even my old Raleighs (who I maintain had some damn good jeansmakers if not patterning and design). I’m sure some would disagree with sound reasoning - I’m just saying it hasn’t been material to me for my purposes. I guess this is why I was never totally taken in by Roy - perfection in stitching for jeans, while admirable, just isn’t in concert with how I think of jeans and why I appreciate them. Weird comparison here but if I think of photography it’s like the difference between viewing a sizable print (at appropriate viewing distance) from a camera that capture an image at 50 mp vs 100 mp. The resolving power of the camera (provided a base level of detail, say 24mp) is almost never what makes the picture successful, and if you had the same picture side by side, the 50mp print is going to register exactly the same to almost everyone. Maybe a few can guess correctly, spot a tiny difference - but the viewing experience of the picture is so much more dependent on other factors. So in this sense - the sense of things that appeal to me at least - the comparison to WMJ (or yes Rebuilt or BOT etc) seems apt enough, even if the makers veer a little differently in their visions.