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I´m patiently awaiting my White's SD. Been about 4 weeks since ordering, so getting closer at least...

Damn the wait! But when there´s something great awaiting...

once you get them, you will miss the waiting. Sometimes, that painful wait is euphoric...

i like those Oakstreets, seem like a much better option than the hideous Wolverine 1000 mile boot. Like most though, I dont need anymore footwear. Also, Im getting kind of tired of chromexcel on everything. Id like to see some different leathers being used by Oakstreet. Their peanut suede is amazing, but havent seen it in a real world application yet

Here are a few close ups of the RS04 denim. It started out without any visible irregularities, but as it has worn in some slub has started to show up and I have some nice vertical fading going on.

I have noticed this slub as well on mine. This denim is fucking mysterious. All kinds of things going on beneath the surface.

Roy makes you work to earn his love fades. I have RN04s in a 3-jean mostly nights/weekend rotation and they're looking pretty new still

mine too.

ok, I dont want to talk about Timberland boots anymore. I was referring to what is currently for sale at the mall. Im not talking about their heritage models or what they used to be. Im talking about what they are now, and that in my opinion is crap. Crap, as in they are boots that will service you fine until you have to toss them and get a new pair. I know they were a decent brand at one point, but so was North Face and Patagonia and other brands that did what everyone else had to do in order to turn a profit and keep costs low. Its all made in China sweat shop junk as far as Im concerned. I try not to support throw away brands these days, as it goes against what I believe in. (get off my lawn!!!)

can I ask a question that has most likely been addressed previously?

I have seen Full Counts with and without red tabs and arcs. I assume this is because you cant sell red tab/arcs in the USA because of Levi's. Any way around this, aside from ordering from outside the USA? I like the Full Count arcs, and have pretty much decided on FC's as my next pair. any rec's on where to go to get them? Obviously I prefer to support local business, but that might not be an option at this point...

Thanks in advance.

Being that Chromexcel is a process rather than a cut, this is true. I found that Wolverine, Alden, and Oak Street Bootmakers use thinner cuts of Chromexcel, resulting in an unsavory amount of stretch. My little Quoddy bluchers have a thicker cut and are fantastic as were the Lone Wolf engineers I handled. I haven't seen any White's made of Chromexcel in person, but I've heard they use a nice thick cut and I certainly cannot imagine White's skimping on durability.

As for stirring up shit, when I brought up the flimsiness of certain Chromexcel cuts in the Styleforum Alden thread I was quickly berated and told that Chromexcel was the most indestructible leather any of the members had ever handled, readily standing up to any abuse that they could dish out. Considering the average lifestyle and frequency of wear I observe over there, I suppose I'd be forced to agree

well, it being a process is not the point. the point is, they seem to have different levels of quality. The Wolverine quality seems to be bottom of the barrel so to speak. Anyone who thinks CXL is the best leather doesnt know leather. Its a fine leather for most applications, but I would never use it for a dedicated work boot, and its def. not the most durable. There's a reason why it so buttery soft and comfy right out of the box. Not to say its bad, as I have 2 different pairs of shoes with it.

haha, sorry about the rant. didnt mean to derail. hopefully the thread police overlook this small indiscretion

oh, and not to stir up any more shit, and I cannot prove this, but I am convinced that Horween has different grades of chromexcel. The CXL on my whites is much much better than the cxl I have seen on Wolverine 1000's. The cxl on the wolverine's I have handled seemed thin and cheap, with a nasty waxy finish. I have seen a few different pairs of wolverine 1000's at different stores, and each one felt weird.

I dunno about that, I had some of their Abington range hiking boots. Made in the USA, Vibram Christy sole, Horween leather, they were pretty cool for $75. I got a couple of years good everyday wear out of them.

you also spent $75, not $200 or so for some of their garbage that Nordstroms sells.

also, I am not familiar with "Timberland Boot Co" but that seems to fit the description of when I said "unless they have a high end range of boots". Im talking their normal, buy at the mall line, and that is crap

Unless there is some high end range of Timberland Boots that I am not aware of, they are essentially mall boots. I dont think anyone here takes them seriously as a boot maker and hasnt for the past 20 years or so. They are fashion boots, and their price and construction quality reflect this

soak first. how to do it? I dont compute the confusion. Put in water, let sit in water, remove from water, hang dry , wear.

I think that a lot of companies were not and still are not prepared to deal with the rather sudden interest in the made in america, traditional production thing. Nobody should accept shitty work, regardless. I have not owned a pair of Aldens, but I have seen this issue bitched about for a while now. When I was looking at boots, and was considering the Wolverine 1000 mile boot I was appalled when I saw the way it was made. Even my Bakers Oxfords have pretty bad stitching consistency and they cost $300 and took 8 weeks to make. The construction is top notch, but you can tell the normal White's guys didnt do the work. Probably the newer, less experienced guys.

dont be fooled, Aldens are about as far from a work boot as you can get, at least these days.

what model are these?

EDIT: As in yes I'm assuming that these are a CXL but what exactly does that mean? I'm new to the boot game and want to catch up.

I cant tell if these are a 6" smoke jumper on semi dress last in black cxl or a semi dress. Regardless, they have a block heel, single leather sole with close trim. Antique eyelets and a toe cap

ROY product selling fast...you dont say. Unfortunately, I will be out of country in the middle of the fucking amazon, so I guess Ill have to wait and see how these turn out

Kiya, can you share any info regarding the cut of the ROY unsanforised duck coming out?

Not a fan of the Whites with double stitching but a single leather sole. I think it throws the balance off, making them look odd.

it will soften up and start to sort of fold over after time.

after about 3 dips in hot water, mine lost all the shrink they had in them. They dont stretch much though in the waist maybe half an inch or a bit more in my experience

fuck, now im starting to justify another Faler wallet....

John, can you get any whiskey shell? I think its the lightest color brown, right?

looking good. mine are about on par with yours. stubborn denim this stuff is.

awesome. I meant to contact him for some jeans for my wife. The turn around was one week? Thats impressive

im liking the measurements of that new 3sixteen. Ill have to check them out when the time comes for a new pair

i would get tired of lacing them up

they are expensive compared to the OEM, but if you have a car thats non-galvanized, it could save the cars structural integrity.. Performance-wise, they seem to be a bit stronger when cold starting, but other than that, I didnt really notice much difference.