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cAnes 1945 cowboy jean

lee 101b

lee roscoe from euro line

Tough one... As Superstar points out soaking your jeans is fun, also scary, but some times scary makes things fun .

Going strictly on looks and ease of use get the one wash, you have to worry much less about shrinkage although they still can shrink a bit. Some will say that raw breaks in better, gets better honeycomb, is darker etc... I don't believe it. Give a one wash and a raw in the same model of jean a year of wear and you won't tell them apart.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=20161

Just go through and look at picks of peoples jeans search before and after thread there are nice pics there.

This thread could probably also be closed. One thing you will hear reiterated is to use the search function before posting new threads or questions. Enjoy the forum.

Heck of a deal! Nice pick up.

If you want to do it sneaky style I use an oxidant concrete powdered stain and I have found that when it gets on denim it makes them dirty. But good dirty.

I agree just wear them.

I am beginning to give up on telling people about jean. Nudies ar the easy ones, cane are tricky. Most of my friends find it funny that I can tell them exactlly whaT jeans they are wearing. I usually say gap. :D How easy is that?

You want to snowboard in denim? Maybe you could ski too... and go down the hill in a total b-line using no poles? Your a Yeti! :D:D

So I warm soaked my 1945 nonwashed once and hung to dry. They now are exact to tag size for measurements but the legs did not twist. Should I soak again? My biggest concern is that when they are finished breaking in 6 month-1 year - 20 years (I don't know or care when they will be finished breaking in :D:D) that the leg will twist during later washes leaving me with honey comb down the side of my knee and knee fading on the other side.

What do you think i should do?

a) warm soak again and hang dry to see what happens?

leave them and when I wash in the future only cold wash and hang dry.

c) leave them and wash how I normally would when they are fully broken in (if they did not twist they never will)

For more on natural v synthetic indigo, look here.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=11213

All that said, not sure that this discussion has anything to do with the organic Even Steven. I seriously doubt they use organic indigo, and I'm not convinced they use natural indigo, but I'd love to be proved wrong.

Yeah oops a bit off topic. In regards to the Even Steven I am pretty sure they are referring to organically grown cotton and regular synthetic indigo. The cut looks nice I like the sounds of a slimmed down, straightened out ralf, but not crazy style like slim kim. Maybe I'll go try a pair on.

viv and I are saying the same thing.

Hrm I'm not so sure about that. It depends on how processed your indigo is. In other words, I grow a bunch of indigo:

yay! pretty flowers... Anyways:

If I just crush the flowers and stick them into some acetone and extract the color you're gonna get whatever the hell ended up in the pot: various organic chemicals etc (I'm assuming here that acetone would be a good solvent because it is for most things). Whereas if I do all kinds of treatments and chemically extract JUST the thing I want I will end up with a compound that is almost identical to synthetic indigo...

Are you agreeing with me or telling me that natural indigo is inferior because it has a great chance of containing unwanted impurities? Also does not indigo need to be fermented before extraction? I read a lengthy article on the process and it seemed very labour and chemical intensive regardless of it supposedly being a natural process.

You would not get the same indigo used for dying by putting your plants in acetone, the process of creating natural indigo is quite a bit more complicated than that.

ps I like your flowers.

Organic indigo is actually more durable then synthetic, atleast what sience says... Don't know how much it effects fade but I don't think there's an Uber big difference...

A common misnomer natural indigo is not any more durable than synthetic, the main difference is that those that use natural will use more labour intensive dying techniques and produce a high quality denim. (ie hand rope dying, more dips, etc...)

Science says that on a chemical analysis there is zero difference between natural indigo and synthetic indigo that being said any difference then must come from the dying process itself.

Also if you have crabs your crotch blows out easier because they pinch little holes in your jeans so they can breath better.

I was not lucky enough to get the one wash and had ot settle for the nonwashed. After I gave them a warm soak for a couple hours and hang dried them they wear exact measure to the tag size.

As a side note mine shrank but the leg twisted very little only one of them slightly twisted . I wonder if they want to shrink again or if I should give them one more soak, I would hate to get some nice knee fades going on and them wash them and my knee fades end up on the side of my knee...

I changed my mind. I.... I.... I love them. There I said it. Also Is there a maroon, burgundy looking staining in the front or is that just funny lighting? It looks good either way.

You guys are babies. Put your jeans in the microwave. Problem solved. Science versus Science its a fact. (I have an arts degree so I use a special kind of science )

Nowadays the store is always packed with lame ass dirty stinky emo kids.

Emo kids do stink.

Also those jeans are maximum sweetness. They look great, cut looks really good and not out of control like cheap mondays (which I think are too skinny) The denim has broken in very well. They are something different, a real treat!

Who are the denim masters on here?

Ryu

Ringring

Neiljiful

tg79?

Have you heard of someone called DDML posted something about 3 post before you.

Sorry buddy have blue stains on sneakers.

No way it is 18 oz. I don't know if it says on the website but from the feel of it i would say 11 or 10 oz.

silhouette is the outline of the body. Cut affects the outline giving the desired effect to silhouette. Hammer pants give a funny silhouette riding pants also that sort of thing.

I really like the look of the denim and the Hiro Ito fit, but the inside seam stitching is kind of gaudy. in my opinion at least, from those pics it looks as if they went a lil too far with the "sewn wrong" deal on the inside inseam.

Besides that, i think its a great pair of jeans. Wonder how they feel.

They feel very nice, they get very soft but are durable (have a friend who wears his doing everything (he is apprenticing tradesperson also one of the 777)

The denim gets a nice look to it as it breaks in, also nice streaky colour. The Steves are not into tradition denim cuts but do respect the history from what Steve told me, One Steve is interested in silouttes I would expect some interesting cuts soon.

I just threw my jeans in the washing machine for there first wash. I was going to soak them and do all that other special stuff, but at the end of the day they are just jeans. Im not the type of guy to baby my stuff, ill leave that for the pretty boys

Kind of a hypocritical response considering your on a forum specifically geared towards denim (which would include denim care).

Iron army has some streaky denim that is pretty affordable and has modern cuts. Those new red moon jeans look ultra streaky.

Jokes on me I guess My first pair of canes should have been the 47 repros not the 45 repros. Well such is life. I really thought the canes accurate was hot. But to be honest as long as cuts are not changing this is not a huge deal what ever modification one might want to do at home or at their tailors is impossible to regulate.

I wonder if evisu will need ot make changes to their logo and name (again).

I have also read something to that effect. I guess it would have to have some sort of built in bug reppellant or would not ants just come and eat it all up? Or bees, hornets, wasps, flies etc...

I have been in a sugarcane field before and I did not really inspect the plants but I don't remember any bugs, but it was hot as hell I don't think there were bugs anywhere.....except in hotel rooms (costa rica)