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If you wait a couple weeks I can give you a first hand account of some new 45 I have coming but so can 100 other people on here tell you about 47s.

I have heard that the general consensus is to size down one size. Measure your waist because canes are exact to tag size.

Then use wash and stretch to adjust your jean's size from then on.

This has all been siad in this thread before but here it is in one post.

If you do want SC 45 lee repro move quick becuase I think they are not being made anymore. Or it could have been a misunderstanding I had. Has anyone else heard anything to do wih this?

I don't think this has been mentioned but I was talking (e-mailing) with Mario Kenjo from mil-mil.net and he told me that Sugarcane had discontinued the Cowboy jean (1945 lee repro left hand twill, a bit of green cast etc...)

Has anyone else heard anything to this effect? I ordered a pair from him and luckily he still had my size.

So if this is true if anyone has been deliberating over this you should act now and if anyone has a sugarcane connection I would be interested to see if this is true or is Mario and I lost too much in the translation between our conversations (he speaks no English and I now Japanese so our translated e-mail can get funny).

I hate out of control bootcut. Flare = boo! At the same time I have a few jeans that I really like that are "bootcut" the bootcut is so moderate it looks very natural and comes in handy when I am wearing my boots!

Off the top of my head the Lee Roscoe in half selvedge is a nice bootcut jean. I have a pair that I wore daily for about 8 months and are now part of a rotation they look great denim has held up very well (no holes, rips, weak looking spots or even abrasions) and they have faded to a blue with some wear that a really like.

So I guess they are everything some of the really hardcores would hate:

1) bootcut

2) half selvedge

3) they had wash when i bought them

4) I washed them more than once in the 10 months I have had them, probably like six times!

:D

wear what you like. Bootcut works and is necessary in some situations.

wow, I am in the wish they were bigger category. Ok one of you skinny dudes has to jump on these!

And since when does a size 32 waist make me a bigger dude?! Anyway jealous of anyone who can buy these!

OK I am headed to Oahu in February and doing some shopping and eats research as well. I have done the searching and checked out the other threads which are pretty decent but a bit dated one is from 2 years ago.

Is there anyone that has recently been to Oahu/Honolulu and has some good advice on shopping and eats that was not on these threads? I am also looking to pick up a used board for wake surfing back home (surfboards are hard to come by in alberta) Need a fish.

Look nice. What kind of shoes are you wearing with them?

The ones you are wearing either put on the floor or a hook. The ones that you don't wear either fold up or hang up.

Ahh Shit! fatbobs started wearing russel sweat pants (or Sweet pants as me and the sweat pant forum nerds call them) I am switching to just gym shorts from now on!

My grandfather has been wearing $8.99 Rustler Ridged jeans for as long as I have been alive. He buys them because he doesnt care if they get messed up and they are tough. He buys them ridged, and my grandmother washes them like 5 times before he wears them in order to get the "stiffness" out and make them more comfortable. He certainly wears them hard - he owns a ranch / farm in west Texas and does everything in them. But what amazes me is how he gets them to fade and break in. His oldest jeans always look pretty awesome, but as soon as they start getting good, my grandmother throws them out and gets him a new pair because she thinks they look "too worn out" and is worried about them "ripping pretty soon". Oh how generations change. I wear Rustlers to work in as well, and they are fine by me, but I would never wear them for the purpose of breaking them in really - but I just got some new ones for work jeans and I am anxious how they will eventually turn out.

We need to see some detective work. Lets get some pics of your gramp's jeans.

The look pretty real to me. Detail all look fine. Are there any other details off other than button and zipper/ I have seen the same zipper used on other APC garments and I have seen other APC jeans with different buttons (such as some special edition APC from and APC store in luxenbourgh I think?)

Look nice though, great black jeans.

I totally aggree with you about that jacket.

it blew my mind when I looked at it. I cant even imagine what was going on in order for the wearer of that to get those kind of fades.

I think i looked at that jacket for a good 2 minutes straight the moment I turned the page.

That jacket was insane!!! When I turned the page to it both my wife and I gasped. I just stared at it. It was so beautiful. I began to wonder if the sleeves were really long for the guy that wore it and he had like supper stacked sleeves?

Thanks so much pacoli. It is a great story about denim, this guy was truely lucky to find such a gem and then talk to the right people before he made the lot into handicrafts.

Some of the colour falling is truely incredible on those jeans. The one thing I love is the honestly behind the fades. The sun bleaching on some of those shirts is just something that you can't fake. The scream truth about those farmer's lives.

don't do it.

your just gonna make funny belt loops

If you did want to do it. cut 2 2 foot peices of 2 x4 and then use quic claps to clamp the whole top of your jeans evenly in them. then use the same clamping method for each pant leg.

the 2 x 4 at the bottom could have weight attached to them.

great advice all.. i knew this was the place to get my questions sorted.

they are marked a 30x34, but actual measurements are 29x33. got em from ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220049637319&rd=1&rd=1

ideally i think id like two or three more inches on the legs. as they are, when i sit down my socks show about a half inch (wearing low shoes or sneakers). this doesnt bother me as much as it might bother others, and i dont mind keeping them. but i think for my next pair i will find something longer. otherwise the fit is as close to perfection as ive ever known.. and it can only get better!

if i do try to stretch them, would it make a difference how long they had been soaking first? or would a quick but thorough drenching under the showerhead yield comparable results?

and is stretching by hand the best method? i imagine myself yanking and flailing around.... but im not all that strong.

You won't be able to get them to stretch that much, I was thinking you wanted another 1/2 inch maybe. Also how tall are you? It is perfectly acceptable for your pant legs to move up when you sit down just don't let them swish when you walk (that means too short). Actually a perfect classic fit with out a cuff or stack would show at least a half inch of sock. Anyone who would bug you about a half inch of sock showing has no idea about fashion and or clothes should fit. Somewhere kids got this weird idea in their head that their socks can never show otherwise their pants are too short. By the sounds of it I would not worry about the length but be careful washing and drying you don't want them to shrink.

Unless you are going for a specific look (such as cuffing or stacking) don't worry about your socks showing a bit when you sit down, just buy nicer socks.

I was not saying they are fake I was more feeling out what his question.

Is it:

a) What should he call his jeans?

Are his jeans selvedge?

c) Are they fake?

d) Do Sf'er like them?

e) All of the above.

I was more joking than anything. The only reason I mention the bum wiskers is because I think they are a bit much. I have seen wiskering hit close to the pocket but never on to them or even within an inch of them. But nvm that it is off topic.

I'm charging that much because that is how much they are worth to me. They were basically my 2nd skin for a year and a half so there is more value to these jeans then just the appearence.

Have you sold these yet?

I think what the issue might be is found in your own words. They are your second skin, not someone else's.

Denim is truth, and these jeans would not look the same on anyone else but you, maybe to hang on the wall someone would buy them but then that defeats the purpose of breaking in jeans as art. It would not be your own denim truth it would be someone else's.

I am curious if they sold though.

Nudie can be dumb about there lines, cuts, tags being all changed and hard to keep track of I don't really think they have a system and this is not the first time I have heard of discrepancies between their tags and their products from year to year.

Anyway my guess is that they are Regular selvedge.

Also you did not ask a question in your thread. Is your question if these jeans are selvedge denim or not? If so the answer is that they are.

Where did you get them? Are you concerned that they could be fake?

Are you concerned that they have wiskering on the bum? Bum wiskers should be a concern of everyone! :D

Uh you guys hear of dish detergant and it's grease cutting action? Use dishsoap, I have taken out many oil stains from clothing and denim with dishsoap. If you are really concerned about "wreaking havok' use an organic dish soap (but they suck and don't cut grease) or you could try Dr. Bronner's Eucalyptus soap it I have heard ti cuts grease. My advice is a spot of sunlight and some water and just spot wash it. But don't go too hard or you may end up trading your oil stain for a fade spot. You could just leave it, i have had some oil stains just fade away after time.

Typically you will get very little stretch out of the legs as most stretch happens naturally over time and the leg length never really sees that much stress on it.

Also no matter what some may tell you, you will want to wash your jeans, in which case if you did stretch the legs they will go back to very close to their original length and possibly shrink in length a bit.

I would say if you have a length issue return them and get a longer leg and deal with hemming.

How much length do you want to stretch out of them?

Yes any seamstress can fix that no prob. I say keep them but maybe if they begin to blow out they should get rotated.

On a side note who has issues with blown crotches. I have never had it happen. But I have a freind who always blows the crotch out of his jeans.

What is the deal tonnes of splits? Big nut sacks?

Except their premium line for 06 has exposed selvedge on the back pockets!?

Is that some sort of bad joke? They do look very nice but exposed selvedge is... well its.... Its just wrong, OK? WRONG!!!

Except their premium line for 06 has exposed selvedge on the back pockets!?

Is that some sort of bad joke? They do look very nice but exposed selvedge is... well its.... Its just wrong, OK? WRONG!!!

Let's try and keep this post on task if we can, be specific.

What brand(s) do you hate and why?

I know we all hate poor construction and design that does not think of function. ( or at least we all should)

As far as gap goes I give them a mixed bag I think they are decent for the price I have easily had 3-5 years of wear out of any gap jeans (in rotation) I have owned (while I wore that style of jean) and my longest last pair just got retired this summer they were 1998 carpenter jean, and the crotch was not blown out and I did actually use them for carpentry.

As far as my most despised denim brands. I hate rock and republic - the back pocket makes me cringe when i see it on guys, on girls it is not so bad. I also dislike mavi, and diesel.