wild_whiskey

Fret not, the crinkles are likely to pop back into the same spots that they were before and the whiskering will continue. Dry cleaning is no monster. BTW, great taste, I love Jil Sander stuff (although I can't speak for the newer lines that will be coming out since Jil leaving her brand).

Sorry - if your first post isn't clever, then we can't have you posting here. Thanks for the interest, though. It was pretty clever, however, so post away.

showbiz00ditc,

whiskers are the distress lines that are created when the jeans fold and the denim from both sides of the folds rub against each other. They look like lighter-colored lines that match up to where your jeans naturally crease when you sit, walk or bikeride, etc (at least in genuinely worn-in ones, they will match up).

They will not shrink up to shorts. They will shrink up to 4" off the tagged size but your mileage may vary. Also, the seams will start to twist. Embrace that, because it's great.

Seems pretty rediculous to make genuine selvage jeans (which those appear to be) and then sell them as cheap knockoffs of a relatively esoteric brand instead of putting a different patch on it and making $200 a pair.

That said, I'm sure they're real.

I dont think the inseam is absurd at all - it covers for the tall people. They're straight leg and unwashed so you aren't hurting the balance if you get them hemmed. Try Denim Doctors in LA, they might be able to chainstitch the hems for you, but be weary of this because they WILL shrink an inch or two on the length, so you dont want to hem them too short and have them be high-waters when you wash them.

I can only wonder what Patek or other chronological abbhoration made that patch of pastiness on your wrist, Serge.

Edited by wild_whiskey on Apr 18, 2005 at 09:43 PM

Serge, those jeans look great on you. It's very uhh.. courageous of you to be posting pictures online, as well. Kudos.

aipume - that's just the unwashed indigo color, and is really unrelated to the denim being woven in Japan or not.

cafe racer jackets are sick as hell. I've been looking for a cool vintage one (like that you posted) but can't find one fitted enough for my taste. A lot of ones around the stores were made in the 80s so they have aircraft carrier padding on the shoulders.

I think the tight jeans are going to have some sweet fades where the jeans wrinkle up above the shoes.

I don't post much in the non-denim threads but I gotta say, if you think that simply posting a picture of a dude whose style you admire is homo (and I can only assume by your charming use of the word that you mean it in the most derogatory manner possible), may I suggest you leave your surburban home, get a life, and perhaps a little culture to go along with it?

The fit looks great but... bummer

Looks interesting for certain. I would like to know how it worked out for anyone as well, but the question would more likely be answered on mynudies.com than here.

Serge, whose redline is that in the new sig?

Quote: also, what is the brands image in japan?

A pair of their "bespoke" custom jeans is 89,000 yen - that's almost $900.

Edited by wild_whiskey on Apr 12, 2005 at 02:05 PM

more like two weeks. But yea.

guitar wolf can do whatever they want, and they aren't really "indie" per se. Part of their persona is saying fuck you, we'll do whatever, whether you like it or not. They are a personal favorite of mine, but they might be done for good after the recent death of Billy.

There is a significant difference in fit and feel between the Sugarcane (classic Levi's style) and A.P.C. (modern updated style). You're really looking at apples and oranges here - the waist on the A.P.C.'s will be almost 2 inches lower, the seat will be more fitted, and the legs are not tapered. The Sugarcane jeans are also a heavier denim and assumedly have some more vintage Levis features (although I cannot speak from experience as I haven't seen them in the flesh).

The question you want to ask yourself is - do you want a classic American look, or a more urban, modern look?

It's always going to be at least moderately awkward to have the fit altered, because when they undergo the laundering process to achieve wear marks, they are on specific areas of the jeans. The inner thighs, for example, will have a solid, plainly stitched seam, when there should be contrast where the seams should pucker due to uneven fabric shrinkage. This is assuming that the inner leg is where the tailor modifies the fit. Seven jeans are quite extravagant in their washing, and it might be pretty obvious if its missing some highlights in areas because the worn fabric was pulled under and stitched over.

Some of the newer sevens have no back pocket design, just a plain patch. It would be a pretty expensive process and would probably screw the jeans up a bit - the wash wouldn't be consistent along the inseam. It's better to just wear the jeans and buy another pair later on.

Well APC jeans certainly are nice, and they are tough, but Nudie Regular Ralf Dry Selvage is considerably "tougher" than any APCs I've worn. Other Nudies (boot cut Ola, for example) are pretty weak, but it is matched in their price, which is lower than APC for dry. The APC English are also a wide fit jean and are less susceptible to rips and tears because the legs will not be pulling them nearly as tightly as a slim-fitting jean.

Also, the Nudies on the Nudie website are *not* 6-months old. They're generally 2-3 years old. Look at the pictures people have posted on mynudies.com of jeans they have worn for 6 months and you will see that the wear isn't nearly as much as the jeans the models on the website are wearing. Also, I think many of them are artificially rubbed or sanded by the wearers, and the images also look color corrected and had their contrast increased through photo editing. I don't think that Nudie Selvage Denim fading is any more than APC or any other brand - it depends on your wearing habits more than anything. I'm not biased here - I have both APC and Nudie jeans (among others) and love them both.

Lazyline - if they are unwashed, they will stretch out over time. You might want to wait till the next washing period, then when the jeans are still wet, pull VERY HARD on the waist, or put them on and button all the buttons so that the waistline can stretch out. Your legs will be blue and you might want to lay out in the sun for awhile to ensure that they do not shrink too much, but at least your jeans you paid $300+ for have a chance of fitting.

I'll re-word ringring's post for him

You should be able to achieve high-contrast fades with any pair of unwashed jeans. That includes your 501 shrink to fits.

Edited by wild_whiskey on Apr 8, 2005 at 09:16 PM

The 1947s in those pictures are definitely slim-fitting.. At least by today's standards, what may have originally been a regular fit is now considered pretty slim, as most guys wear their jeans *way* *too* *baggy*. I consider the RR cut to be slim. Again, the size I ordered may have to do with this.

Away from this argument - the Studio D'Artisan SD-105 looks sweet :-D I want to see what a boot-cut jean looks like with a twisted seam..

Whites and things that I don't wear very often I will throw in the dryer. I wash everything on cold, and delicate, except for whites and towels of course. Everything else (dress shirts, western shirts, printed t-shirts, jeans) I hang dry.

Yep,

Unisex = New Standards = Standards.

Anglaise = English = "Unwashed"