wild_whiskey

Already posted this on another forum but for the denim junkies here who want to check it out...

They're four months old and they've been washed 3 or 4 times. they are a bit darker in reality than this picture shows... it's the flash's fault.

If they arent Levi's repros or Japanese Levi's lookalikes, chances are they're sanforized. In fact, I've never seen a non-sanforized dry jean that wasn't a repro of old jeans - and those that aren't sanforized (for example, Studio D'Artisan) will shrink to their tagged size.

seriously? I havent been keeping up. I need to sell my extra 1947s!

Yea you guys got owned.

Edwin - well priced, quality selvage, Evisu without the bling.

Denime - Japanese repro Levis, Lee etc

Sugar Cane/Buzz Rickson - Japanese repro Lee & Levis

Dope & Drakkar - Japanese Levis style

Dry Bones Japanese Levisalikes.

Eternal - Japanese Levis style

F.O.B. - Japanese Levis style

Full Count - more Japanese Levis lookalikes.

Joe McCoy - Japanese Levisalikes.

Johnbull - Japanese selvedge.

Kato - made in Japan, Zimbabwe cotton denim.

Pherrows - Japanese Levisalikes.

Skull - yet another Japanese Levis style

Studio D'Artisan - 'Pig brand' Japanese 5 pocket jeans, also do a natural indigo denim.

The Flat Head - More Japanese Levisalikes.

Warehouse - more Japanese Levis homage.

Paul Smith 'RedEar' - some selvage pieces

Nudie - selvedge jeans made in Italy, designed in, Sweden.

Morris - red sanforized selvedge from this Sweden brand. Nice stitching, shame about the tapered legs.

Maharishi - selvage with backside camo print

Firetrap - *I think* they have a small collection of selvedge

DDC Labs - Visible selvage edged coin pocket, hidden rivets, lined back pockets all in zimbabwe cotton. Nice.

Blue Blood - selvage loose fit workpants. Expensive.

D.I.E. - Denim Is Everything- redline selvage.

Gap - nice light blue selvedge. Bargain in a rinse wash.

G Star - 'Red listing' redline

Uniqlo - biggest bargain selvage ever? About half the price of Gap. Excellent.

Levis - Repro Vintage Levis + others like the Black Label Oki Ni jeans that have a yellow selvage.

Lee - some jeans have a green 'half selvedge' which is a classic Lee detail. And there's a style "Cornell" that has full selvage outside leg seams and a selvage coin pocket, plus Japanese repro 101z.

Red Dot - Evisu with a tad less bling.

Yen - Japanese Red label.

YMC - redline denim from UK brand.

Nobody - Aussie branded selvedge.

Es - 12oz selvage

OneTrueSaxon -'Vintage Curve' style 14.5oz selvage

Abercrombie - Ezra Fitch style

Duffer - red selvage.

5 - red selvage

Sunday n Company - selvage via NYC.

Lewis Leathers - biker selvage

Howies - OSD style

Supreme - made in USA

Margret Howell - makes jeans in association with Edwin.

Quinnen - selvedge denim woven in Lancashire, England - has anyone seen these?

Toast - even the queen of mail-order slippers is doing selvage.

TopMan - UK cheapo menswear retailer's premium range includes dry selvedge jeans.

ringring made this list!

I like the stretched out knee thing as well. Once you've worn the denim down enough and its nice and loose it will fold together in the center and won't bulge out anymore.

The #1 sign of knowing that someone is not worth talking to - dark clothes with a white belt. It's a phenomenon. People who wear white belts are morons.

So long as your jeans are made of cotton and you live on planet earth, your jeans will shrink.

I throw my jeans in the dryer to shrink them, but not when they're wet. After they've stretched out from a week or two's worth of wear, I'll just throw em in for an hour on high heat to get them back to size.

Hmm.. pictures might help. You might be seeing yourself from a negative light.. I know this girl who swears she can only wear flared jeans, but she looks so much better in straight-leg or slight boot jeans, she just has a skewed vision of herself

incoming 3 page response from Superslim!

No kidding...

But I know she'll say Diesel Keate, so I'm going to say it first. Diesel Keate!

Sorry but APC fit is nothing like the RR fit.. If you want RRs, why not by them? You can get pre-distressed ones.. Other than that, these are pretty close:

http://www.activeendeavors.com/product.asp?catid=3439&pfid=AED07388

Super Human Retailer - where can you get those exact 505s? I assume somewhere on Rakuten or something? They look really good and I'm gonna buy a pair asap!

Those Red Loop 505s look really cool

Where are LVCs from that are stamped "R?" are those the Japanese ones?

Well there are lots of things you can do, the quickest being rubbing it with sandpaper or pumice stone. The problem with this is that you get highs, but you dont get the lows in the same areas so the look of your jeans comes out unauthentic and two-dimensional until you've worn them in for a good year or so. They'll still be "accelerated" as far as wearing them goes but there is a real difference between that and natural wear, the latter looking much better. I would recommend rubbing them just a tiny tiny bit until the blackish indigo turns into a darkish blue indigo and let the rest come naturally. Doing it that way at least knocks off about 3 or 4 weeks of wear.

The other thing you can do is mist them with starch every 3-4 days in the back of the knees and on your lap. This will make it a bit stiffer and will wear faster (although they'll be more uncomfortable to wear).

Subjecting them to extreme heat can also help. Laying them out in the sun for a day in your backyard or on the roof of your car or something will also help the worn areas become lighter.

The other option is of course, to buy pre-worn jeans

They hand-number 501 pairs of these jeans, but they aren't actually 501s? Awesome.

Does it really matter? If you say jeans, everyone will assume you mean blue jeans, and if you say denim, most everyone will assume you mean blue jeans - unless otherwise specified. "Denim baseball cap." "Denim trousers." "Denim jacket." "Denim blazer." "Denim thong."

I haven't seen Layer Cake yet but I reallly want to.

I could have sworn Ichi the Killer and Oldboy are connected? Same director or producer or something?

There are like 13 pairs of Uniqlo selvages going out to styleforum, give it a few months and we'll see for sure

Quote: No offense Wild Whiskey as you are usually so very right on most things. But this time not so much. Tracking can absolutley be left without the denim being selvage. An open seam, stitched at both ends will yield exactly the same result as long as the seam has laid flat during most of the wear. It is a reult of the slightly raised edge at the end of the fabric on the seam. Both selvage and open seams produce exactly the same result. Sorry babe! XOXO

I'll take your word for it. No need to apologize.

Well, if they are faded a lot on the seams, they have those "traintrack" fades down the side. With non-selvage jeans, there won't be two outside fading lines that run parallel to the seam, there will only be pucker-fading. Even when it has a double seam so it fades on both sides of the seam, it won't have the same faded lines running parallel to the seam. I wish I had some pictures to demonstrate. It's very difficult to explain.

psyiko.. if you've seen real selvage, spotting "fake selvage" should be easy as pie. It's incredibly obvious when the seam hasn't been finished

Hmmm.. Loomstate and Rogan = crap quality. Rag & Bone, APC, Nudie, Corpus = good quality (R&B and Nudie are more hit or miss).

It might be related to the weather and humidity. I'm the same way, none of my raw jeans have ever bled on anything except my shoes, yet other people with the same jeans have ruined furniture and/or turned into smurfs.