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Yup I get the same message. Tried last week to post some pic

We should change this thread name to Vinegar, Blunders, reflections and general nonsense.  

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Pedro said:

Is it wabi-sabi or just an error in the choice of dyes?

Well, I would say its simply the chlorine bleaching the fabric. My friend has had the same shorts for a few years now, with no problems.

I've had boardshorts bleached by chlorine pools before. This one pair of light blue ones that almost became see-through springs to mind! 

@Broark I can totally understand why you would be upset. However, I think they look kinda cool, like a vintage pair of tiger camo that has been sun-bleached. I'd embrace the wabi-sabi nature of them.  Was it a chlorine pool that you swam in? 

That's really cool, apparently, it was just for SS19, the new season has no tabs. Makes me wish I'd copped a pair! 

Wouldn't hydrogen peroxide bleach the denim? I mean isn't that why people use to bleach their hair? 

@Pedro Well, with respect I think the Sufu community probably make up about .001% of Levis global sales, so I don't think they are really marketing towards us  

I'm not 100% sure but yes I believe it has to do with the dying process, also eliminating chemicals in the washing and distressing of jeans. 

I think the made in the USA is not a direction that Levis seem to be worrying about right now. Talking to reps it seems the company is pushing its eco-friendly agenda and also investing heavily on laser technology. Which will basically allow people to customise and fade a pair of jeans in the shop sort of like Nike ID.  So where the jean is actually made and from what cotton seems like a secondary concern.

19 hours ago, Paul T said:

Have they said that on the record?

It's what they told me five years ago was the back up plan. Still sad though.

Its what our LVC rep told us.

Interesting the catalogue had no mention of where the denim was from, simply stating it was redline selvedge.

You would assume that they would have added this info as other people have mentioned, it is a selling point. 

I'm sure Kaihara will do a great job on the denim. 

Those JP 66s look incredible, but yeah I can't afford them haha 

The denim will be from Kaihara mills( last season was the last of the white oak), no idea where they are now cut and sewn. 

@BosstimeThey look fine, it usually takes 2-3 washes to get all the shrink out anyway. 

@d-rew12 Yeah it's not a nice feeling knowing someone else was in your space. Our store got broken into last year, so I know that uneasy feeling only too well. Like you say. Its only stuff and it could have been worse. 

The 105 is loosely based on a 1950s 501. It has a standard leg but is still a fairly tailored silhouette.

The 90s as its name suggests is based on a loose/baggy fitting 1990s silhouette and comes without selvedge.

The pair you linked to is also a raw version, whereas the 105s mostly come one wash. 

@d-rew12 Oh man that sucks, sorry to hear.

The laptop I can understand, but that's pretty strange that they would steal your jeans?

Seems odd if it was just junkies after cash and valuables.

Almost seems like it was personal. Had any fallings out with people you know? 

@JDelage 

Hit up Marty at https://www.godspeedstore.com 

They stock Trophy and he's been able to custom order items from Trophy. 

@8bpc Ah okay, I understand.

I have the ST 120x in a 31". I'm normally a 30" waist and had to size up one for this style. As others have mentioned they will stretch however you have to be able to button them up for that to happen. 

Don't feel too bad, denim is tricky and you are not the first to go wrong sizing a pair of jeans.  

@8bpc There is no way those will fit you especially as they will shrink slightly after a hot wash.

Can I ask why you didn't buy a 31"?

The ST style as mentioned above is a slim fitting style. I wouldn't recommend sizing down on them at all.

I always thought they were made through CSF? 

Forgot where I found this pic, but really diggin the fit.

Can anyone identify the jeans? Due to the leg twist I'm assuming Resolute 710s? 

So after measuring a bunch of 47s, they do in fact have a marginally higher rise than the 54s. I feel like its the taper on the 54s that give the illusion of a higher rise.

Also, it's worth noting that the 47s run small in the waist. So a tagged 33" is actually a 32" and so on. 

Here are the measurements for both 47 and 54 in size 33 in a 34" leg

                               1947                           1954

Waist                       32"                             33"

Front Rise              12"                              11.5"

Back Rise               15.5"                         16.25"

Thigh                      12"                             12.25"

Length                   34"                              34"

Hem                       8"                               7.5"

The 54 is a slim tapered leg, where the 47 is a slim straight. I found the 54 had a higher rise and slightly generous waist compared to the 47s.

Co-Sign on all the 76 praise. The denim is really nice and its a great slim fitting jean.

I would love to snag a 33 or 37 in before all the white oak runs out. I find im liking the wider leg models these days. 

It's about a $40 USD difference, I would put it down to freight, import & sales tax. 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, 501XX4EVER said:

The bigger picture is that even some of the larger Japanese brands(Osaka 5)are having issues at the moment and are restructuring/changing so it could just be that the end of a cycle has been reached and the whole retro jeans market has peaked and will more than likely never return to previous levels.

I agree with what you are saying. I would add that the retro jean cycle (outside a small band of enthusiasts such as Sufu) has already peaked for the general market. The Osaka five were already in trouble ten years ago, as demand in the domestic market wanned. They were buoyed by interest in European and American markets for some years. Now it seems that too has also declined. 

Working in fashion retail since 2006. I have seen the market change from were every 2nd guy was wearing jeans to now if I do see denim its more likely a pair of nudies or some mainline washed out levis, bought by 20 something kids, spurred on by what they think the 1990s looked like. 

I see a young group of consumers who fetishises all things LVC related,  however, they simply don't have the money to purchase a $370 AUS pair of jeans.  

I find they run bigger, so I would size down half to a whole size.

Apparently, the main cars used by the characters in American Graffiti were auctioned off at the end of the film. They had trouble selling them and most only went for a few hundred dollars