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well let's slap a patch, cinch and some belt loops on it and get these shipped out already! ok ok n/m i'll wait for everyone else.

No! They run smaller. It's weird. I wear a 30 in the 0105 with room to spare in the waist, and the 32 in the chinos fits a bit similarly, if slightly looser. That said, after that the cut is rather similar. Measurements at Bears are pretty accurate from what I found.

@Double 0 Soul I may get to that at some point, I’m still relatively new to my current town and learning the nooks and crannies. Everyone just knows it for the university, understandably - which does brisk business and is a big reason it has not hit the same sort of hard times so many other towns have. Most of my life was in the Chicago area but I’m so tired of moving I’m pretty sure I could die happy in the current place I’m in.

This could be a reach and unrelated but seeing the storefront just brings it up - the collapse of main streets/small retailers in so many towns and smaller cities is one of the biggest bummers of whatever you want to call the highway system/tech boom/post-covid long era we’re in. It’s not happening everywhere but it’s happened in so many places that really would be wonderful little communities if they hadn’t gotten sold out by any number of forces. I hope Hudson’s Hills vagueries keep open the possibility for another spot - but it’s just in the abstract, I’m not sure when I’d pass through Gboro again. I would think the main issue with this stuff is I would bet in a town like Greensboro, the store probably has a tough time making the argument for the cost of the goods to enough of average residents, and that is the support that is so crucial to brick and mortar. I still don’t know how my local shop stays open unless they do brisk online business - every time I’m in there it’s more staff than customers.

That's a real bummer to hear. So few markets are well served with a brick and mortar that stocks this stuff. Even tougher because they're in the hometown of White Oak, so it feels like a bigger deal. But the website just says the physical store is temporarily closed - that's changing? We have something close-ish in Ann Arbor with Today Clothing - which is a much better store than a town this small deserves to have, but it's a small overlap in the venn diagram of what I really prefer and what they carry - still would be quite bummed if they turned over. At the same time, I'm not the type to keep them afloat, though I try when they do fill a gap.

@81FXR is there a reason you’re not considering Full Counts own 1201 (1941) chinos? YMMV but I got them with the same reasoning (wanting 0105 silhouettes in chino) - and I found they fit the bill.

Lovely photos. I second looking out for a pair for my son. He's in an outdoor/forest based preschool and I know he would shred them. He's finally probably old enough to wear a pair of those Nippers, but it seems like that didn't stay afloat. I wonder if they're still out there?

@yung_flynn how are you finding the break in on those Beckman’s? The back mid calf part is rough for me. Rest of the boot is a bit more comfortable out of the box though.

You should. I'd love to read it. And it's great to hear. My experience has been the opposite - and it comes from the side of being a photographer (another industry where an assumed hierarchy loves to exploit workers in legally dubious ways and then tell themselves they're actually helping them out by bestowing deep knowledge), but of course that's only my experience. All I will say is that - and this is just for me - the explanation you give to the RO line doesn't translate in what I see in the way that they market, style, and model their stuff. Perhaps it goes over my head - this is quite likely even, and I'm fine with that. But perhaps it's also a failure to communicate. Either way, it's a breakdown. That's going to happen in any medium of creative expression for some message senders and receivers. Of course maybe I would know more if anything I saw from RO made me want to learn about the brand, but it very much doesn't, so why would I? Even if it's a joke it looks like the sort that just isn't my flavor, and it doesn't have to be! That said, I'm all people doing their thing and making it work (whether it's the designer or the wearer). Responding a little more generally, I don't think saying something isn't to one's taste is shit talking though. Character denigration, sure. That's not cool. Art ≠ artist and all.

Penis balcony pants is the first bit of lightheartedness I’ve seen in the RO collection. Still not for me, but laughter is good medicine any way it comes. Perhaps I need to reconsider my assessment!

Anyone have experience with the strike gold’s sweatshirts and sizing comparison? I see a lot of size up with it, but I’m looking for a slimmer/less bulky fit that can go under denim jacket. Shorter is better. If I fit into a 38 of freewheelers/powerwear (sweat), can I get away with a medium - or should I really go to a L? I know a M will fit my arms and torso length, it’s just the damn shoulder/chest thing.

Still mostly same. Inis meain, Ooe Tux, Kapital, red wing

I think there are quite a few labels appreciated here that are designers. Only speaking for myself but I react to the vision and the aesthetic of a designer - not the fact that they are one. I’d even call most denim labels here designers. But in a narrower sense then Tender, de Bonne Facture, Kapital, 45r, Blue Blue Japan are a few that I appreciate, for example. So yea, love me some weird shit - but not all weird shit floats my boat. One of the worst sorts of brand images to me is a sense of deep and unbending seriousness. The industry of high fashion is about as toxic a concentration of egos as one can find in my experience. I’m sure there are other industries that could tie it but not sure any exceed it. It would be funnier if it weren’t so sad.

Larger jeans won't stretch as much in the waist most of the time because they're not getting the pressure to stretch. I really doubt your size 36 will stretch to 96 cm if your waist itself isn't that big unless you try to wear it lower or put a lot of pressure on the waistband otherwise. I've never had a pair stretch to being whole size too big in the waist. That said, my OA's in size 31 are definitely a little more snug in the waist than my FW in size 30. At this point this is after a lot of wear and multiple washes and even drying for both.

This isn't much help - I don't take before or after measurements usually, I just take note if something fits. (I take measurements before I buy, but after that I just put it on). Anyways, I recall the FW one wash '51's stretching a bit in the waist and more or less staying that way. They've never been as tight as they were the first few days I wore them, even after many subsequent washes - or if they are it's only for an hour or so. I wear a size 30, and their 30 is pretty middle of the road against other brands. But, snug as they were, they still buttoned up just fine without any contorting. All of that said, I wouldn't personally buy any jeans with a waist short of my intended use, not 3 cm, definitely 5 or 6 cm - and I didn't with my '51s. I bought them at the exact waist size I wanted to wear them at.