JohnM

^ ah yes Flash, memories of childhood -- skateboards, dodge ball, spin the bottle, and hope these fit me, etc.

^ Thanks b_F -- I may be too old for Instagram, but did message him there ;-)

This discussion of Levi's jeans of the past (and their unique characteristics) is interesting to me since I used to buy them when I was a kid in the 60s -- or my mom used to buy them for me.  They were thick, flat, and stiff, shrank a lot, and had a sort of odd, baggy, straight, non-contoured fit.  They weren't necessarily cool at the time (or 'Boss'!) but they were interesting and different, since you had to soak them.  I sometimes think of Roy Slaper's comment (or a messed up paraphrase of something he may have said) that jeans are an ill-fitting garment.  That's pretty much how the 501 felt to me at the time.

And now we're trying to build in these characteristics from decades ago.  Reminds me of when I took my Dad (now long gone) to a nice B&B in northern California for his 80th birthday.  After taking one look at the inside, he said, "Thanks very much for arranging this for my birthday.  I'm sure we'll have a great time.  But, just so you know, I grew up with bathtubs with legs and hardwood floors.  Now I like wall-to-wall carpeting and air conditioning."

Quick question regarding ordering and communicating with CSF.  I paid for my first pair (1947, size 38) on February 11th and haven't heard a peep.  I assume this is normal, given that Konaka is essentially a one-man shop and busy making jeans.  For this who've been through this process, was it your experience to wait a bit, with no word for a while?

Also Flash, would love to hear more about what you (or other) find unique or special about Conners.

^ Funny!  No idea whether it's intentional, but I think Levi's tended to have that on the right leg instead ;-)

b_F -- beautiful pics and quite far from your home!

Broark -- ever heard of (or seen) the Marfa Lights?  Haven't driven through there for many years, but there were these lights on the horizon at twilight that no one could explain.

Great fit and they’re wearing in nicely. I’ve been wearing my size 3 pair too — thanks for the tip on the 105. Will be interesting to see if the inseam comes up at all with washing. There’s a little room but not much!

46 minutes ago, Broark said:

Think again : https://www.selfedge.com/roy-selfedge?product_id=2357 

Broark, is this the same cut and fit as the recent Test Lot and Memorial jeans?

8 hours ago, JDelage said:

People who like the Roy memorial should check out IH's 1955S, which has close-to-exactly the same measurements.

Agree, I have both and they fit similarly -- both have a lot of room in the hips, thighs, and knees, but come in at the waist.  Both are also size 34 and the Roy's are a touch bigger, pretty much everywhere.  But the shape is similar.  The IH pair I have is also significantly brighter blue, not quite 'electric'.  I prefer the more subdued color of the Roy's.

^ Nice Broark.  Am I right that the Memorial, (latest) Test Lot, and R01 jeans are all essentially the same, at least in terms of Cone denim and cut?

^ That's a great choice.  Tough to find those first year editions with the sandwich dial.  While I love the sandwich, the current painted dials are very nice too.  Big, bold numerals with lots of lume.  The current brown dialed 560 and 564 are great, as is the earlier 176 with a black dial.

^ Those look great!  Perfect silhouette, as they say.  Color and texture looks interesting too.  Thanks b_F.

^ Just finished reading Murakami's 'Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World'.  What a great book.

The Panerai is huge at 47mm.  Despite the size, I love the simple, two-hand design with sandwich dial and manual wind movement.

Panerai 587

Fullcount 1101

Thanks for the correction b_F.  I always wondered where the term 'banner denim' came from and assumed it referred to any company's standard denim.  But you're saying it's only Warehouse and pertains to Levi's big, silkscreened advertising banners, if I understand correctly.  Did Warehouse make this reference themselves and did they make a denim that closely matched the denim or details shown in the banners?

^i_denim, I was referring to FC in that sentence -- FC's banner denim is as as soft as any I've experienced.

The denim on the Warehouse 800 is also quite soft, in a thicker, nubbier way.  But for sheer softness and comfort, I'd rate FC banner #1.

As an aside, soft isn't necessarily better IMO.  Sometimes harder is better.  Wait ...

^ yes, the FC1101 would be a great choice:  high rise like Warehouse 800 but a little roomier in the top block and thighs.  If you want even more room, then consider an Ooe OA02, but size up.

^ Here are some quick thoughts -- others can weigh in with more precision:

Fullcount denims are the most stretchy of any I've owned.  I'm a 33 in FC1101 or 0105, a 34 in Warehouse 800, and 36 in Ooe.  FC denim is also very comfortable and soft, especially the 13.7 oz. banner denim.  I love the XX too -- more weight, yes, but a little darker and more texture too.  For sheer comfort, it's tough to beat FC banner.

Both the Warehouse 800 and FC 0105/1101 have relatively high rises.  The 800 (to me) seems trimmer in the top block and thighs.  I'd say the 800 is more like the 1101 than the 0105, which is wider at the bottom.

The 800 denim is also quite soft, rivaling FC.  But it has a thicker, nubbier feel, if that's a word.  The 800 denim feels heavier than FC banner but lighter than FC XX.  Just my impressions ;-)

John

Love the jacket, or maybe it's just that Ryo looks great in his own creation (with Hiro).

Broark,

Here are the measurements on my Golden Gates in size 36.  I believe these are after one soak, one wash, and about an hour's wear -- so there's more stretch in these.  That said, I tried on a couple pairs in size 36 and this was likely the largest in the waist.  So it would be good to have the folks at S&S measure the raw pair for you.

Waist   34.5"

FR       12.5"

BR      16.675"

Thigh   13.25"

Knee    9.75"

LO       9.25"

Sure — not home now but will get back to you soon. 

1 hour ago, Broark said:

Did anyone happen to pick up the Golden Gate jeans in 36? All my others Ooe’s are 38 but I feel like I could maybe make these work in 36 depending on the shrink/stretch. Thinking about buying the last pair and taking advantage of the S&S Black Friday deal. Might be wishful thinking though. 

I have the GG in 36. Top block is similar to other Ooe OA 01 and 02 jeans. So I’d stick with 38 if that works best for you in other Ooes.

Thanks mpukas -- they do feel like they have some shrink left in them.  The denim has a great look and feel at this point (heavy, dark indigo, crinkly) but they are big everywhere except the waist, which is not the jeans' fault ;-)  Breaking these in is 'interesting', because they're roomy and very long.  Not used to rockin' a 4-5" cuff ...

Here are the measurements on my Test Lot R01 jeans (size 34).  Love the hip and thigh room comfort and am confident these will turn out well.  But post-soak and stretch they're big and long -- so pics will come later, post hem.

            Raw  /  Post Soak with full stretch

Waist   35.5" /   34.25"

FR      13.25 /   12.75

BR      17.75 /   17.5

Thigh   14    /    13.875

Knee   10.25  /  10

LO        9.175 /   9

Hem    39.5   /    37

Good call cjfergs.  If you're a side sleeper, try sleeping on your back so you don't shrink one leg more than the other.

42 minutes ago, Geeman said:

It's OK to declare you're selling and provide a link to the post or site but don't list the items individually in the respective threads. 

 

Geeman, until I can get supermarket to work for me, I can't really post them there.  Is it wrong, for example, to say that I have a Samurai 510 or Fullcount 1108 in size 36 or is that too detailed?