JohnM

Hi Maynard,

Thanks for the input and information.  The owner of the jeans and jacket (Tom) says it's only one pair of pants.  By the way, they are signed by Bob Haas, but Tom has covered the signature, as we can see.  Tom worked at Levi's for over a decade in various capacities and very much enjoyed his time there.

John

Thanks propellerbeanie for pictures of the 1966 and 1947, and also 428CJ for details regarding various models.  I would like to add another pair of LVC in addition to the 1947, though it sounds like I'll have at least one criteria will have to be sacrificed (higher rise, full top block, trim legs).

My recent interest in LVC spurred me to contact a friend who used to work for Levi's.  Tom now owns a small clothing store in northern California but before leaving Levi's he picked up a couple pairs of jeans that were made in the Valencia Street factory.  Here are some pictures.  Please tell us what he has!

I recently picked up a pair of LVC 1947 jeans (Cone Mills, size 36).  The fit is great -- pretty roomy after a warm soak, but they should shrink down to be a comfortable (if not exactly trim) pair of jeans.

I'm considering adding a pair of 1944 and/or 1966.  Any thoughts on whether I should stick with a 36 waist or consider a 34?  My preference is for jeans with a reasonably high rise, generous top block, and reasonably trim waist and legs.

Sorry if this has been asked recently.  I'm working my through this thread but have a ways to go.

^  That's funny Foxy2.  Is CSF vying for your attention?  ;-)

^ Nice car -- my wife has the same one, including color!  Hers is a 2006.

^ Nice review Cold Summer.  It looks like a beauty.  Agree on the lack of interior pockets -- would be nice, even if not historically accurate.

^ dada, that's a good question.  My guess is that you'll be fine -- the denim is stretchy.  It's true that my size 34 pair didn't shrink down quite that far but there are a couple of things to consider.  First, one-wash jeans typically get a pretty heavy duty, hot wash, so most of the shrinkage is already there.  Second, measuring techniques differ -- I pull the waist a bit before measuring.  Maybe the 84cm comes from just laying a tape measure or ruler across the jeans without pulling.  Third, does the vendor have a few pairs in stock?  There can be minor variation between pairs, as we know.

Your question peaked my curiosity about the 800 cut, so I put them on this morning.  Sorry to say I really like them still -- if I didn't, I was just going to sell you my raw pair ;-)

The 800 is different than other Warehouse jeans.  As I said earlier, the inseam is longer, which is nice.  It also has a highish rise but it's trim through the hips and legs, with a nice, but not overly large, leg opening.  The denim is also really nice -- feels thick but soft.

^ Mine came up 1.5" -- started out at 35.5" and ended up at 34".

I have two pairs of 800 in 34 -- an older pair that I've had and worn for a few years and a new, raw pair.

The waist of the old pair measured 35.5" when new/raw, 34" after a wash, and 35" after some stretch.

The new, raw pair is a little smaller, measuring 35.0" in the waist.

As an aside, one thing I like about both pairs of 800 (size 34/32) is that the inseam is longer than on some other Warehouse jeans.  The old pair measures 34" and the new, raw pair measures 35.5".

Loving the Deninbridge jeans -- great cut, weight, and crinkly feel.  Evo will be slow since I bought both 35 and 36 -- both fit, depending on the waistline.  With loud McCoy's/Buco shirt and Lofgren engineers in Choco/Black.

Recently picked up a nice, if a little bold (for me), Buco long-sleeve T.  Great weight and feel to the fabric.

Recently picked up some Lofgren MTO Engineers in Choco and Black.  Just love em -- perfect fit, fit/finish, etc.  Thanks to John and the Sendai team, as well as the folks at Standard & Strange.

^ She wants to take care of you, so wear those FW and let her do it!

They look good to my sufu trained and certified eye.

How do they fit compared to your Denimbridge pair in 38?

b_F, that's a heavily worn and faded pair of jeans.  What the heck?  I thought we were brothers in buying too many pairs and finishing last in various fade contests? ;-)

^ FWIW Broark, I wear a 3 but could also comfortably wear a 4.  You are I are typically one size apart.  The 3 is a trim but a good fit on me -- decent room in top block and nice rise but pretty trim everywhere.  The 4 would be 'relaxed fit'.  So I'd say 5 for you if you're ok with them a touch loose.  I suspect this doesn't help much but it's all I have!  ;-)

Fantastic review b_F -- thanks for taking the time to do this.  I'm amazed at the attention you pay to each detail, some of which I can barely discern due to a little colorblindness ;-)

Love the crinkles Thanks_M8.

b_F, I have no idea what you're eating!

^  After one warm soak and one wash, the inseam on my size 36 shrank 2" -- from 36.5" to 34.5".  Here are all the measurements:  Raw / Post-Wash.  The Post-Wash measurements include minimal stretch, as I wore the jeans for about 15 minutes before measuring.

Size 36   Raw / Post Wash (stretched slightly)

Waist         36" / 35"

FR           13" / 12.5"

BR         16.375" /  16"

Thigh       14" /  13.25"

LO          8.675" / 8.25"

Inseam     36.5" /  34.5"

They look great b_F -- perfect fit, just like I told you ;-)  Love the shoes too.

P.S.  I told him to get a size 36 and the 35 looks perfect.

^ The Ooe will fit a little differently with relatively more room in the hips and thighs and less in the waist.  The 1108 is great for lean/trim body types, whereas the OA01/02 is more forgiving and works well for those with bigger hips and thighs.  I have the 1108 in 36 and it's too big in the waist, yet almost too trim below.  The Ooe in 36 fits perfectly with room in the top block but a trim waist.  Ooe is my favorite cut followed by the FC1101 and a couple of Warehouse models (e.g., DD-1001XX, 1943).

While I love Fullcount, Ooe is a great brand, beautifully sewn by Ryo and Hiro.

^ sorry to hear this b_F.  We all look forward to hearing more about the jeans when they make it to you.

Thankfully, research has shown that extra time in the delivery truck enhances vintage appeal through fade acceleration, though your mileage may vary ... ;-)

That 36” waist on a size 35 is encouraging Bobbo.  Looking back in the thread, I see your post-wash waist measurement was only 42cm or 33”, so they’ve stretched out a full 3” with wear.  Overall, it looks like these shrink a lot, but then stretch back a lot. Given how much stretch that is, let me know if that all makes sense and you agree!

Two pairs delivered today.  Beautiful jeans -- nicely sewn, substantial, and a nice grayish color.  The 35 is likely to be too small in the waist for me, but the 36 should be perfect.

Below are raw measurements, BIG style.  I'm guessing the slightly under tag size waist measurement on my 35 is due to button placement (it's a little farther from the edge than on the 36).  So mine are essentially starting out at tag size in the waist, with shrinkage and stretch from there.

Size            35 / 36

Waist      34.75 / 36.0"

FR         12.5 / 13.0"

BR          16.25 / 16.375"

Thigh      13.75 / 14.0"

Knee        9.5 / 9.75"

LO            8.25 / 8.675"

Inseam     36.25 / 36.5"

Does anyone have experience with the fit of the 1001XX, compared with the 800XX?  I find the 800XX fit reasonably good but trim through the hips -- could use a little more room in the top block.  I'm also considering the DD options that FAB FOUR just mentioned, but was curious about the 1001XX.