snugglepony

hour and a half room temperature soak: negligible shrinking, zero indigo loss, nasty brown water from the starch/sizing.

just finished alain de botton's <u>status anxiety</u>, now onto thackeray's <u>vanity fair</u>... both come highly recommended for those of you in need of a little levity to go with your, um, $200 dunks. <gag>

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^^^^ pry b/c it's the best priced place to get nudies, and it's kinda like "your own special spot" to pick up good stuff, and u don't want to tell anyone b/c it will just blow it up, and less likely to get your size, style you want. It's like that in the shoe game.

--- Original message by bonde111 on Mar 30, 2006 04:44 PM

kinda figured that...

my response is, "boo-hoo."

i guess i'm a share-the-wealth kinda guy.

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no likey selvage? loves u long time

snuggler, i don't think you are allowed to spread the name of the store you mentioned. people will smack the back of yr head. i wouldn't, i'm just sayin

Edited by denimdestroyedmylife on Mar 30, 2006 at 12:20 PM

--- Original message by denimdestroyedmylife on Mar 30, 2006 12:19 PM

ddml -

just curious: why come?

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how will that help? wouldnt they still end up slipping underneath?

--- Original message by witts on Mar 30, 2006 01:39 PM

i guess i'm assuming the jeans are somewhat stacked near the bottom hem... if you starch them and set those wrinkles in when you're wearing a bigger shoe, the stiffness of the starch will keep the jeans from falling down under your heels when you wear a slip on.

this make sense? you're effectively shortening your jeans.

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 30, 2006 at 01:55 PM

starch the bottoms of your jeans when you're wearing a bulkier shoe.

kitchener.ch is cheaper and ships to the us.

obviously the "charlie" wash that pops up first isn't raw, but the "deadstock" doesn't apprear to be raw either. there are visible traintracks along the outseam, and it looks like there's some distressing along the front pockets...

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You can still have children and wear supertight jeans. It's just a myth that tight jeans cause infertility.

--- Original message by AznInvazn on Mar 28, 2006 02:01 PM

i said MALE children.

--- Original message by giantreptile on Mar 28, 2006 02:11 PM

dumb ----> dumber.

sperm counts do drop as temperature increases, so always wearing tight jeans MIGHT actually affect fertility...

this has absolutely nothing to do with the sex of your offspring, however. that's preposterous.

$400? on sale?

buy yourself three pairs of APCs and wear them in yourself...

gold buttons/rivets would be pretty soft, i'd think; sounds like an exercise in ostentation and not much else.

continental-usa.com

some of the best hoodies/sweats anywhere, esp. the vintage line.

in portland:

hattie's

redlight

buffalo exchange

avalon

magpie

decades

retread threads

ray's ragtime

retrospect

lady luck vintage

xtabay (women's)

moxie (women's)

you can do a local.google.com search for addresses &c.

i'm going to be working with a local designer next month to get a pair of bespoke jeans made... he can source various raw selvage denims and seems excited about working with me on the details. i'll start a new thread and post pics &c. whenever we start work...

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just wondering, for those of you who ordered directly from Imperial. Did you pay via PayPal with an account email address Info gave you? The account email does not say "imperial" right? Also, did they get back to you with tracking details and stuff?

--- Original message by sfiction on Mar 27, 2006 07:45 AM

hi sfiction:

it sounds like you've been in touch w/ info and that he's given you an email address to submit payment through paypal. this is how i got my imperials, too, and if you go back and read the thread, you'll see others with the same experience. i did not receive tracking information from info, but i did receive my dukes within about a week of submitting payment (i payed a bit extra for expedited shipping). PM me if you want to talk specifics.

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When someone cant even differentiate between Iraq and Afghanistan then yeah, I call them a fucking idiot.

--- Original message by MilSpex on Mar 24, 2006 07:38 AM

i call you a fucking idiot who's hung up on semantics.

we're in iraq for the same reason we're in afghanistan - because the regimes the coalition militaries ousted were, according to the cheney/rumsfeld cabal, "state sponsors of terrorism." the taliban harbored and aided al qaeda, they said; saddam hussein, in addition to the claimed WMDs, funded and otherwise aided al qaeda, they said. cheney was all over the fucking fox news programs determined to make it known that there was a direct link between saddam and al qaeda (never proven, and the current administration has since backed away from this assertion).

i have no doubt that englandmj7 and the others who chimed in to support him/her know that iraq and afghanistan are different countries. your argument is a straw man, dude - whether it's iraq, afghanistan, or soon even iran or north korea, it's all part of "global war on terror, tm." even the chickenshits in the whitehouse will agree with that.

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 24, 2006 at 02:32 PM

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 24, 2006 at 02:33 PM

go for the 30. i'm a 31 in nudies (actually own a 32, but they're a bit too large), and i fit into a 32 in the raw dukes.

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these are unbelievably ugly

--- Original message by jwied82 on Mar 22, 2006 10:09 PM

already a thread...

http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=8303

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well, i don't

--- Original message by 6MT on Mar 21, 2006 02:16 AM

that's awesome!

quoting a post that wasn't addressed to you is a great way to prove your case...

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 21, 2006 at 07:08 PM

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Oh, wow -- good to know.. I think I might go ahead and have mine hemmed, then.

That coppery brown color is starch Surprisingly, though, these aren't very starchy at all. Or maybe I'm just used to Japanese jeans, which are so loaded with starch you could use them as baseball bats.

--- Original message by minya on Mar 21, 2006 03:36 PM

mine are actually quite starchy, even post-soak. i ironed the selvage flat once they dried and that sort of reactivated the starch even more. they wouldn't stand up on their own or anything, but they're much much stiffer than my nudies were when they were new... our jeans were probably cut from different bolts...

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FINALLY got my Dukes in. Fricking Canada Post charged me $15 in customs fees, WTF? Whatever.

Anyway, to echo the sentiments already posted, they are fantastic jeans. The denim is really nice, and interestingly, the ecru thread is very clearly ecru (in contrast to the indigo threads, the ecru threads look almost yellow).. cool effect.

The denim is also quite soft. These are definitely not as starchy as Japanese jeans or even Nudies. Nice change.

However... I hope I didn't order the wrong size. I ordered size 32, and I can JUST BARELY put them on... and it feels like the buttons are about to burst, and they crunch my hips. I'm guessing they should stretch to fit me comfortably (my SD-103s, which were absolutely brutal at first, are now quite comfortable and even a tad bit loose..).. but.. if anyone out there has either a raw or washed indigo Duke in size 34, I'll consider a trade.

These jeans are sanforized or somehow mostly pre-shrunk, right? If they EVER shrink to anything smaller than they are now I won't be able to put them on. Hopefully if I stretch them out to about 34.5" in the waist they'lll just shrink back to 32", and not go down to 31" or something.

Anyhow, these are great jeans. I hope they don't end up as "Honestforum-y" as Nudie has become.

Edited by minya on Mar 11, 2006 at 01:56 PM

--- Original message by minya on Mar 11, 2006 01:54 PM

minya,

i think they must sanforized, or somehow otherwise pre-shrunk-ish -- did about an hour and a half's lukewarm soak last night expecting to get a bit of shrinkage in length. hung them up to dry and just measured them and put them back on. there was literally no shrinkage in the length -- maybe a quarter to a half inch. i'm sure a hot wash and a hot tumble dry would shrink them, but i wouldn't worry too much about them turning into 28s when you eventually wash and hang dry. mine still measure out to 32/36+...

they did turn the water in the tub a dark coppery brown... glad that shit's not all over my legs, i guess?

those look great, actually.

occasionally i'll stop by the guess factory store when i'm travelling for work, but they never have anything but baggy jeans with crappy washes/distressing... i'll keep looking though, and maybe i'll luck out.

^^ second the imperial dukes.

if you're in the US, you may still be able to get them for about $160USD shipped...

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Here are pics of my jeans.

http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imperialf2hb.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imperialb5tt.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imperials9od.jpg

--- Original message by minya on Mar 20, 2006 06:07 PM

minya -

did you have them hemmed? they don't look quite as long as mine or the pics of haptronic's...

cold soak maybe?

maybe you're taller than i thought?

hi all,

got the email this morning, too, but i have a question for anyone else that's received it: have any of you actually submitted payment yet? INFO told me to go ahead and submit payment and the jeans would ship out immediately, which i did a little over a week ago - i paid a bit extra for express shipping (trackable, insured, etc.), but my requests for a shipping confirmation and/or tracking number haven't been answered...

anyone else who's in my boat?

anyone who already has the jeans deal with something similar after submitting payment?

anyone want to ease my mind a bit?

PM if you'd rather talk specifics.

EDIT: my mind is eased because the receptionist just brought me a package from australia... whew!!

EDIT: also ordered and received one of the imperial t-shirts (the one in purple, w/ the doves and the crown). super high-quality and worth the $30 or so: mid-weight combed cotton, substantially heavier than american apparel, but just as soft and far from bulky. nice finish details: narrow collar band, shorter sleeves, screen-printed "tag" on inside of neck, quality two-color screen.

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 20, 2006 at 11:39 AM

Edited by snugglepony on Mar 20, 2006 at 12:32 PM

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anything by Looptroop, it's by far the most underrated group ever in my opinion, cannot count how many peoples i got really stoked by making them listen to the records

otherwise

souls of mischief - 93 t'ill infinity

all the old boot camp records (OCG - the storm, Smif'n Wessun - dah shinnin, Heltah Skeltah - nocturnal, black moon enta tha stage)

group home - livin' proof

pretty much all records by living legends

--- Original message by Kasper on Jan 25, 2006 05:05 AM

how is '93 til infinity underrated?

everyone know's that record's the shit. hard to believe it's 13 years old...