Pedro

Love the Trusto look.

Sounds like its time for her to find a new man.

1 hour ago, propellerbeanie said:

Not denim related, but who else has felt their ignored users list has been coming in handy lately 

Is this what is meant by the “cancel culture”? 

How to weaponize a forum about denim...too funny.

@Broak 

As a newer member, I assure you there is a clique mentality here.

I have read through the archived posts and there used to be some great smartass comments and a brutal crowd but we are in the age of enlightenment now and alot of the fitpics show a maturing community of professionals. I can only speak for myself but I prefer encouraging new members to forums and if a guy posts incorrectly then a positive nudge is far more inclusive than neg repping with no attempt to assist so the error can be corrected. 

My apology for moving off topic. 

@beautiful_FrEaK

OK. 

But there are several posts dedicated to cats and to kitchen knives and “how I spent my weekend” and who knows what other non-denim topics...Lol...which receive no enforcement effort or negative reps and this is often because of the clique mentality which often rears its head. When its a new member and he is bashed by negative reps rather than positive assistance then it becomes nothing more than group bullying. (This is why some forums have eliminated the variations of “reps” and “likes”.)

I would like to think a community unites against bullying, especially senior members like yourself.

6 hours ago, FAB FOUR said:

END OF THREAD? I fucking hope so.

What is wrong with you? 

First off it is Christmas.

Second, the new poster asked a simple question which fits 100% into the subject of this thread.

I suggest you adjust your attitude and grow up.

@indoverificator

I looked closely at the photos and I do see indications of genuine fading so I think it is possible that those pants were factory distressed as members have indicated but they have been worn long enough that there is also real-world fade also.

Why is the new member above getting slammed with so many negs? What did he do wrong? Obviously English is not his primary language. Couldn't his error be a result of that? Wouldn't this be a better teaching moment and explaining to him and some of us what sin he committed rather than a public stoning so close to Christmas?

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/g391883318

Cool Sugar Cane display.

10 hours ago, givemefive said:

 

Made With 12oz USA Cone Mills Dyneema® Denim (92% Cotton, 8% Dyneema)

 

huh interesting wonder how many yards of this stuff is left.. Not sure how 12oz 8% dyneema stacks up versus this Rokker brand. Guess I can ask Rokker and find out.

All of the moto forums have discussed Dyneema at length. 12-oz denim with 8% dyneema is going to last 2 seconds skidding across the pavement before its shredded. That ain’t much. You might as well be wearing yoga pants.

I am trying to understand the P-21 denim option but can't find anything online except for this from the MF website. It oooks quite dark but more  than that, it looks like both the warp and the weft are dyed the same (possibly the same as the pair of jeans hanging on the right?). Can anyone confirm or offer a more experienced eye than my own.

Thanks

The Pronto website shows the Lot 64BB "Okinawa" and I have to ask is this how the jeans are actually designed, to be so tight? 

How am I supposed to do Judo like Mr F himself if half way into my front kick, my tight denim has squeezed my cajones back up into my abdomen? 

Spoke with a buddy of mine in BKK and he said he met Mister Freedom at PRONTO Siam Square about two weeks ago at a big music bash (carnival) they sponsor. 

Did any of you guys make it? 

BTW, I have a layover at LAX soon, how much time would be needed to jet over to his store?

Cheers

1 hour ago, Radiohead89 said:

Theres so much propaganda about the nazis and world war 2 its unreal. We literally live in a matrix of lies. 

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

 

Dude,

That was 30 minutes of my life wasted and which I will never get back.

https://www.tofugu.com/japan/japanese-swastika/

I have never found offense in symbols...only actions.

The short lived Nazi regime has no more monopoly on the swaztika symbol than the LGBTQA+ have on the rainbow. You can't take a symbol that has existed for millenia across cultures and then claim exclusive ownership...unless the rest of the world chooses to be victim to such bullying...or you are Apple...Lol

Here is an excellent Jungian summary:

"For a Christian or Jew, therefore, the challenge is to come to terms with, and respect, other religions’ views of the Swastika as a sacred symbol.  It is not a competition to see whether the Swastika will eventually emerge with a positive or negative meaning. Rather, it involves finding a way to maintain both perspectives simultaneously and integrate the opposing associations into the same symbol."

https://steve.myers.co/is-the-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil-or-of-good/

Do MF denim jeans always come Raw and not OW or Hard Wash?

Is there a chance that a leather patch would look like this directly from the vendor if sold new?

Based on your collective experience, how many wash/soaks would typically result in this wrinkling?

Thank you

@Double 0 Soul really enlightened me on the entire fake fade thing and I want to ask opinions on this pair of 40401 on Yahoo.

I am guessing they are a fake fade or pre-distressed but what I need help understanding is at what stage in their lifetime this likely occured. 

They are green tabbed so they are an early Hawaii? They are also missing any patch.

Was SC making these pre-distressed versions way back when? Or did someone buy these and then distress them? They don’t look like they had that much use based on the deep indigo still present. 

Any insights appreciated. Someone sure destroyed a great pair of Hawaiis.

Detergent actually attracts dirt and oil particles by chemical bonds and pulls them away from the fabric. I suppose if its just crotch rot then these are largely the result of body oils that a mild dish detergent and a bathtub soak could help remove (dish washing liquid is what is used to clean animals after a petroleum spill because it is gentle and effective on grease/oil).

The crotch region could even be treated locally with pants turned inside out on just that location. After all, dirt is found on the exterior of denim but crotch rot originates on the inside so washing that from inside would not impact the indigo as much.

Ofcourse, the balance between contrast and laundered is a personal choice based on several metrics.

But I am with @JDelage and wash my jeans. 

In that case...although I am not sure it comes in selvedge options.

To be fair to Momentaro Staff, I think the description was quite accurate on how to achieve contrast fade and proper detergent.

It has been my experience here in SE Asia & Asia, that for whatever reason, males do not have nearly the body odor issues as my western counterparts (including myself). Part of this may be that most people over here shower atleast twice a day.

I think health studies will also support my claim that Asian populations do not...yet...suffer as much problem with obesity and being overweight. Most Western guys I know will agree that carrying extra pounds typically results in more perspiration (the bodies attempt to regulate core temperature).

It might be that different cultures can avoid laundering their denim longer than others.

2 hours ago, cause4pause said:

Some unsavoury shit always happens to my jeans at around 2-3 months and forces me to wash. Sometimes it’s much earlier than that.

I can only hope this was simply a poor word choice.

...

Wool fiber should only be spun at the lowest RPM setting or it risks damage. Ofcourse, we are not talking about a fine woolen sweater but practices are established from long experience. Now should it be hung on a hanger to dry. Initially it should be laid flat on a towel and a towel should be placed flat inside. This can be performed on a drying rack with good air circulation by a fan. Once most of the water has evaporated then it should be hung up And the fan should still be directed at it. 

After cold soaking a wool lined denim jacket, I would sandwich a hefty cotton bath towel inside and press out the water being held in the wool.

Is this what @volvo240thebest uses to get such amazing fades?

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/03/02/levis-is-replacing-workers-with-lasers-to-distress-jeans.html

@mlwdp

Black Bear design definitely takes it up a notch with the omission of snaps and eliminating the button flap. This is a vest which could be worn at professional occasions.