kiya

Okay. Sure, Levis were cheaper than the repros are. BUT- new 501s are not made like they used to be. Period. Things were made a lot differently in the 40's. Here's the quickest analogy I can make right now.

this is my bathroom:

Now, 60 years ago, this was a normal, routine bathroom. No big deal, right? You were having an apartment built, this was how a lot of bathrooms were built out. The price wasn't an arm and a leg. Fast forward to 2007. To get this kind of tilework done would cost an arm and a leg.

Think about a typical pair of shoes from the 40's, and how much an equal pair would be.

Bijan, your bathroom is beautiful...

And oddly enough it's the same EXACT tile that covers the floor at Self Edge from the 40's.. SE used to be a Barber Shop in the 40's to the early 70's.

Ok, so it's come full circle. Bijan's bathroom analogy is just like Self Edge selling denim to men in the late 50's that are buying jeans at Self Edge that they haven't seen since they were teenagers.

Get it? No? somehow it makes sense to me.. nevermind me, i think the indigo has seeped into my bloodstream.

nevermind that fact that i said that i wasn't going to reply to this thread again..

wow, i will miss out on this. damn. i got that weekend off too. i wonder when the last flight will be back to san diego on sunday night. i'll have to call in sick on monday mornin though cuz there is alchy involved. hmmm.....nice puzzle here. see what i can pull.

Don't fuck this up homeskillet.

You know what you need to do, make some shorts that make all the boys scream "oh yeah oh yeah..." and go home to San Diego and show em how we run things in The City.

This will be my last reply to this thread, as i just want to clear up a misconception about mark ups..

In response to LA Guy's comment about "2.2x to 2.3x the landed price is a standard markup"

This is correct in the fashion/clothing/retail world.

But this is not correct when it comes what Self Edge is stocking.

My average markup on about 70% of my Japanese Denim stock has a 1.4x to 1.8x mark up. That is FAR lower than what i think most people think we mark up our products after all the fees/taxes/etc associated with importing the product.

Thanks all for the PM's regarding supporting our store, we appreciate your support.

A reason why Me/GF (Anny) would much rather buy from Self Edge, is mostly because of the service and knowing how the jeans fit. I don't really mind paying an extra 50-80, because if I bought the wrong size from rakuten. I'm fucked. Anny recently bought Skull Lindas, and if she had bought 00 from fabfour, she wouldv'e had to find a way to sell them off. But since mr Justice helped her out with sizing and everything, things worked out fine.

Not to mention you guys come in so often that i gave Anny 50% off her Geishas..

The Anny & Co. Crew are the number one denim gang from the East Side.

You asked for it..

The Extreme Yoyoing for Bystanders in Tahoe probably had something to do with the Extreme Drinking of Ten Large Cans of Budweiser.

Bijan hit it straight on here.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

The only company that offers decent wholesale pricing is also the only company that has a US based distributor, and the only reason their prices aren't lower is because all accounts have a minimum sale price for all products.

-Meima Optics

-Flat Head

-Flat Head 3001

-Fiorentini & Baker (not seen)

No clue what the Indian was wearing...

Englandmj7, you're coming to this?

yo sluts..

i'm gonna be in NYC June 23rd.

let's do this shit and get wasted and touch asses and drink vodka.

c'mon.

Sidney, talking about the US import taxes you forgot to mention that jeans shipped from Japan are exempt from Japanese VAT (which is included into the Japanese retail price and borne by Japanese customers) and no, it is not the Rakuten retail price that SE is paying the import tax on.

OK, Keyko, i don't want to get into argument with you, but just stop while you're ahead. Everything you're saying is from pure assumption.

You're assuming there's an actual "wholesale price" for products being sold to the West. There isn't. Wholesale commonly is 30% to 40% less than retail for Japanese denim manufacturers.

Keep in mind, that's retail AFTER VAT, they don't remove the VAT before reducing the price to the wholesale number. Is this wrong? maybe. Can i do something about it? probably not.

But i can assure you that Flat Head, Iron Heart, Samurai, Skulls, and most of the rest work like this. The price which they offer the product at a wholesale level to the West is NOT thought of as a low wholesale price, it's quite high compared to the markup offered by companies outside of Japan.

It's an uphill battle but we're doing our best.

For the record, the only reason i said anything here is because somebody asked the direct question:

"why are the prices in America higher?"

HJJ, nobody is telling you where to shop, i just merely answered a question trying to give some insight on why SE's and BiG's prices are higher on some denim brands.

katz deli.... everything we ordered was really salty and not that good

Holy shit man, every three months i go to NYC and the first place i walk into is Katz's to get a pastrami or corned beef rueben with russian mustard and a side of pickled tomatoes.

not good for the tight pants, very good for the mouth.

Hong Kong retail is about $190 and Rakuten price with shipping to the States is about 180. Is it the lack of accruates and red tabs that makes them so pricey in the States?

We have to pay almost 20% in import taxes and customs fees, plus shipping to get them to us.

And our price also includes shipping to anywhere in the world via air mail (3 days or less) and we allow exchanges if they don't fit you or you don't like them so there's more flexibilty.

I don't want bills, i want sanity.

How much do 3001s retail for? I'm having buyer's remorse on getting my S5000wx's and they haven't even come yet

American retail is $280:

http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=201

Anti-Yo, Transit, Turf, Self Edge.

Forcing me to drink heavily in my spare time.

Trust me, getting sued by Levi's can make your life a living hell for a month or so.

By all means, try it and join the club.

They all come here to ask about denim, and leave the sneakers behind!

You mean like this?

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=24193

Is it just me or are we having an all time high of new members joining the forum?

Look at Superdenim, i swear every other new thread now is asking "what jeans is he wearing?" or "what do you think of my Nudies?"...

Mods, have new user accounts gone up in recent weeks?

I had a fried chicken dish at a Vietnamese restaurant a couple of weeks ago and they had forgotten to pluck the chicken.

I wish i was joking.

Fucked up one of my favorite Pho spots.

Kiya, how does the sizing run? Will they run small like the 634S, or will they be sized as Dior 21cm's are?

They will run true to size.

Tagged size will be withing .5" of the actual waist.

The official release date for the SEXIH is Saturday, March 31.

Sorry to flip it at the last minute, but we had no choice.

Whatever is left in our stock will be put up for online sales on April 7.

Haha..

Really though, i've made many a denim shorts in my time.

I'll post a photo or two later... it's not pretty.

Two things:

1. i can't swim

2. sydney, show us a close up of the pinrolls

I'm liking Sydney's new hair, or lack of.

Yes Homo.