CharlieMike

I am very happy with lot 221. I recommend it to people who like the Resolute 710 but find that it lacks a little room in the thighs and hips, it is also a little higher cut which I like.

4 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Its the same on the 220. I have no idea why, can't prove it's an original detail on old Denime.

@beautiful_FrEaK I find this very intriguing 🕵️‍♀️

Do you know if the shrinkage of batch 221 increases with the number of washes? I'm hesitant to put it in the dryer... does that shrink it a lot? Do you recommend putting it inside out or right side up in the dryer?

Has anyone noticed the color difference between the front and back panel of the Denime 221? I'm intrigued, do you have any info on this?

For those interested, here are the measurements of my Denime 221 W32 L30:
(Raw / after washing at 40 degrees / after 10 days of wear)
Waist: 43.75cm/40.5cm/42.25cm
Front rise: 31 cm / 29.5 cm / 29.5 cm
Back rise: 40.5 cm / 39 cm / 40 cm
Thigh (top): 31 cm / 30 cm / 31 cm
Inseam: 84 cm / 78.5 cm / 79 cm
Leg opening: 21 cm / 20 cm / 20 cm

@obamaFullcount's fabric stretches quite a bit and fits true to size, it's best to take it slightly snug at the waist and in 3 days it should be perfect.

@obamaI usually wear W33 in Japanese jeans, except Denime W32. For Fullcount I wear W31 for the 1101 indigo however I just bought the Fullcount 1101 bkbk, the W31 was too small, I exchanged it for a W32. I was looking for black jeans and the 1101 bkbk is really nice.

Il y a 1 heure, JohnM a dit :

En ce qui concerne le FC 1101 et le 714, j'ai le (ancien) 1101 en 34 et le 714 en 36 - je les aime tous les deux. La montée arrière est plus basse sur le 714, mais pas inconfortable. Le denim est confortable et extensible sur les deux. L'ajustement est excellent sur les deux. Je suis un gars de grande hauteur, mais je préfère peut-être le 714 dans l'ensemble au 1101, ce qui dit quelque chose puisque j'aime le 1101.

Thank you for your opinion, I'm going to order the 714, it's a good excuse because I don't have any WW2 jeans in my collection. And I have the impression that this Resolute model may be better suited to Westerners. And what's more, the waist is high (I found the 711 too low). I'm ordering!

Il y a 5 heures, edwardlj a dit :

si vous voulez regarder une référence à la forme unique de lataille, vous pouvez lire cet articlehttps://ogbros.jp/fullcount_new_jeans/ , dans le fil de Full Count

 

@edwardljThanks for the link, this article is very interesting

Il y a 6 heures, beautiful_FrEaK a dit :

Je n'ai pas encore lavé ma paire. J'ai le L34 et ils mesurent 32,3" en ce moment. Je m'attends à ce qu'ils rétrécissent d'au moins 0,5" de plus.

Thanks, I think the L34 will be better for me.

2 minutes ago, CharlieMike said:

Thanks for your advices. I will probably buy the 714, I may get some discoloration of the closure buttons. I think the cut will be similar to my FC 1101s but I don't have a WWI model in my collection, that's a good excuse lol. @beautiful_FrEaK Has your 714 reduced in length after machine washing? I'm hesitating between L32 and L34.

3 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

If you need more room in the 710 and still like a tapered silhouette, the 714 is a good choice IMO. It has more room up top (even a tad higher rise than the 710, at least in the front) and still has a subtle taper to look more fitted than the 711.

Thanks for your advices. I will probably buy the 714, I may get some discoloration of the closure buttons. I think the cut will be similar to my FC 1101s but I don't have a WWI model in my collection, that's a good excuse lol. 

Thank you for your reply. Yes I'm talking about the new 1101. I have the 30 year old model (with red arcs and tabs). It’s true that the difference between the front and back sizes of the jeans is high (12 cm for a W31). Do you know if there is a historical reference to this? I wear a 31 in Fullcount and usually a 33 in Resolute. Maybe the 714 in 32 would suit me…

Looking back now, I think the “new” cuts from Fullcount are really good. they are perfectly successful and adapt very well to Western physiques. The 1101 is perfect, although similar to the WH 1001 it is more modern and better balanced in my opinion. For the fabric I recommend the 13.7 oz, the Japanese only wear 13.7 oz, the 15.5 oz was designed to fill a niche in my opinion, the blue is also more beautiful on the 13.7, the 15.5 tends towards black. For the story of the bows and the red tab I was able to obtain the 1101 of the 30 years :). However, I have a question: have you noticed the difference in height between the front and the back on the 1101 (+12 cm for a size 31)? Is this something that was found on the 501 XX? I haven't found any other jeans with this feature.

I'm hesitant to buy the 714. I really like Resolute but the 710 is too narrow for me at the top and 711 is too low waisted. The measurements of the 714 resemble the Fullcount 1101. Does anyone own the 714 and the 1101 to compare the 2 cuts? Are you satisfied with the 714?

7 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

No my 220 don't have a very pronounced button fly fade. This is surely affected by the shape of the buttons and probably the tightness of the hip/crotch/fly area. My 220 are looser in this area than my 710 for example.

Ok thank you. This is one thing I really like about Resolute.

@beautiful_FrEaK I also noticed that the TCB 50s and 60s had this particularity ↘︎↗︎↗︎↘︎ of the direction of the twill. This is probably why the train tracks are so marked on the resolute. Did you have with your 220 a strong marking of the buttonhole like on the Resolute? Do you know how to get this?

I received my Lot 221, in length 30, which corresponds to a length 33 before washing. I noticed something interesting, the direction of the twill is opposite on the white part of the selvedge. As on my Resolute 710, the same for lot 220. On my Levis 501 the twill is in the same direction. Do you have any information on this particularity? I made a diagram.

Do you think there will be a big difference between WH 1101 (1970 BigE) and the Denime 221?

15 minutes ago, vIGGiou riou said:

Now I am in my new WH 1000XX DSB 11 days and I think that would be worthwhile to present how they stretch ten days after initial wash.

Taged size W33/L32

raw/after initial wash/after 10 days (all in cm)

waist 91/86/89

front rise 33,5/31/31,5

back rise 44,5/41,5/43

thigh 33/31/32

knee 25/24/24,5

inseam 89,5/82/83

hem 23/22/22,5  ??????

Thank you, this is very useful information. How do you measure size? With the front and back aligned?

1 hour ago, NilsLW said:

@CharlieMike They are doing a 1970 cut?

Edit: found it, looks very nice.

https://www.celluloid1984.com/?pid=174462422

Yes it's the one, I was looking for info on measurements and details

2 hours ago, Broark said:

Sorry, these aren't mine. They are photos from the Warehouse used section: https://ware-house.jp/used/

@BroarkThank you for the info. I didn't know about this section of their website.

2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

And they changed their language from Japanese into French!

 

j/k, thanks for the info

Hahaha

For those interested, Warehouse has updated the shrinkage indications for lot 221. For the size it is indicated 2-3 cm, it was previously indicated 5-6 cm.

Hello, does anyone have any news about the WH 1101 model (1970 BigE), details, a delivery date?