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Yeah. The dude told me it could take up to a year. I expected it to take that long...but not 4 to 5. When I ordered, I was not really an active member here, so wasn't up on the complaints. Wish I could just withdraw the order. As for what it is, just a pair of jeans.

I am now officially a member of the three year club.

Ah. It's the BACK. That makes more sense. I thought it seemed way too long.

Hi, Edwin. Can you please tell me what part of the collar you're measuring from? Seems like a longer jacket than I would expect, but maybe you are measuring from a higher point than I am thinking.

Here is an update on my Cone '66s, 36/34, purchased from the Levi's U.S.A. Website in Nov., 2017 (killer sale: $72 for the jeans). This is after their first wash with soap, after 200 days of wear. Cold hand wash in the tub, with Dr. Bronner's, and air dried. They were also washed cold in a tub with a few cups of vinegar in the water, and air dried, at 100 days. Cold washes. Haven't measured them after the second wash, but shrinkage after the first was about 5 percent on average.

^ Cool looking '66s, and inspiring, as I am about 200 days into a pair of Cone '66s that I started on back in late 2017. They are just starting to show some character. Good to see what tone of blue they fade to.

If true, that's unfortunate. I always buy the longest length available at the time of purchase. I like to have extra material for patches. With those jeans, the dry cleaner might become your closest friend. Just be sure they are dropped off for actual dry cleaning, and not washing. Dry cleaners usually offer both services.

Did they just show up one day? Or did he contact you first to finalize the details, find out if you had moved, etc.?

Freenote's pockets (which I can actually tolerate, unlike most pockets on "hip" brands) are very similar to those.

Still holding out for the LVC reissue of the very first 501s after standard U.S. production ceased. Oooh! Such well researched and perfectly reproduced outsourced crapiness!

I am tellin' ya, man, explore the 1890s. They are practically a woman's cut already. Try to find a Levi's store that carries LVC. Try them on, in a variety of sizes, including downsized. These jeans are cinch backs! No belt required. Cinch 'em up! Have them tailored if you need to. That was the true origin of the first "women's" jeans: men's jeans that got tailored by private parties.

Anyone got a pair of Strong Guys yet? One of their newest cuts, and I haven't heard peep about it. They haven't sewn it very often since introducing it. I got my first pair today. It's a silly cut, but I like it. It is extremely straight legged. The leg opening is huge – deliberately comical, obviously. I used to be in the navy, and I swear they based the cut on the 13 button pants from our dress blues ("crackerjacks"). The denim is awesome. Natural indigo, mid-toned, light weight. Rise isn't quite as high as I'd like, but I am looking forward to seeing how these break in. Interesting that they are called the Strong Guy, when the cut is actually something I would expect to see a woman wearing. Glad to see N&F finally do something with a fair amount of rise and leg opening. And again, this denim is awesome.

I don't know if the very early Levi's women's cuts have been reproduced. But most of the LVC cinch back cuts are cuts that would, today, be thought of as a certain type of women's cut more than as men's cuts. High waist, generous hips, roomy fit. Add some taper if you want. I would look at the 1890s first, as they have the most stereotypically "womanly" cut. High, drawn in waist, wide hips, fairly dramatic taper for the style.

I feel very lucky to have got a rigid one and a pre-washed one, both in XL. The pre-washed one is for dyeing, and I'm hoping the rigid one fits OK being washed cold throughout its life.