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This dude is a total douchebag. One quick look at his Instagram will tell you that. That magazine that is doing a "Best of Kansas City" entry about him ought to get a couple of letters from us, to provide some balance, and let them know they are promoting a sleaze ball.

Thank you. I think I will risk a cold wash when the time comes. Also, I am wondering how you did a 90 C wash. That is approaching boiling. Our hot water heaters here top out at 140 F (60 C).

Do I understand correctly that you didn't note any inseam shrinkage after a cold wash – only after a hot wash? My '36s are also hemmed, quite neatly (a 3/4–full break only). No room for any shrinkage. If the inseam shrinks, even in cold water, I guess it's dry clean only for those suckers.

If I understand you correctly, washing cold for life keeps this inseam shrinkage from happening. I also hemmed mine before finding out about this extreme shrinkage.

Yup. These (and apparently all Lee Archives, IME) run very, very large. I have 1936s and 1950s. Both are well above tag size in the waist. I have also been told that they shrink quite a bit...but neither of mine have ever been washed, so I have no firsthand experience.

Got the same pants, in the same waist size. Nope, nothing "repro" about them. Lee 101 EU doesn't do true repros, that I have ever seen. They've called things "'50s" or "'70s" before, but they are nowhere close to being detailed reproductions.

I would expect any EU Lee 101 jeans to have a rise at least 3/4" lower than the same size LVC '66s. That's just an estimate pulled out of my head, so I would give it 1/4" either way based on the estimate.

Rear rise will depend on size. There is significant manufacturing variation from run to run as well, IME. There have normally been no truly high rise jeans in the EU Lee 101 catalog's standard offerings. Their highest rise cuts are still merely mid-rise jeans, barely hitting, or coming in just under, a 12" front rise, even in the larger sizes, like 36. In the past few seasons, they have put out a few more "vintage-inspired" pieces, so these might have slightly higher rises. But the typical 101Z, Riders, and 101Ss are nowhere near high rise.

I am unsure about the taper of the '84, and I don't really know the '78, but I do own the '76 and '66. '66 is more tapered, but less slim fitting, than the '76. That is because the '66 has wider hips, yet a narrower waistband, than the '76. '76s are slim hipped compared to '66s, yet the waistband is larger. They both go out to approximately the same leg opening, at the same tag size. Therefore, the '76 is a straighter but tighter jean. Where '84 fits in to that comparison, I do not know...and I am also now sure how close the '76s and '78s are.

It's not just, "If I recall," but, "If I recall/remember correctly."

Yeah. The dude told me it could take up to a year. I expected it to take that long...but not 4 to 5. When I ordered, I was not really an active member here, so wasn't up on the complaints. Wish I could just withdraw the order. As for what it is, just a pair of jeans.

I am now officially a member of the three year club.

Ah. It's the BACK. That makes more sense. I thought it seemed way too long.

Hi, Edwin. Can you please tell me what part of the collar you're measuring from? Seems like a longer jacket than I would expect, but maybe you are measuring from a higher point than I am thinking.

Here is an update on my Cone '66s, 36/34, purchased from the Levi's U.S.A. Website in Nov., 2017 (killer sale: $72 for the jeans). This is after their first wash with soap, after 200 days of wear. Cold hand wash in the tub, with Dr. Bronner's, and air dried. They were also washed cold in a tub with a few cups of vinegar in the water, and air dried, at 100 days. Cold washes. Haven't measured them after the second wash, but shrinkage after the first was about 5 percent on average.