johngalt

@branesploadIs right again. The Dyadic uses the simple YKK with a webbing pull as the Nemis. The Dyadic is thermal mapped using microgrid merino jersey in high-heat areas. The pocket are made from Terratex. 

Graph is getting pockets from next FW!

@branespload Yep it's the same guy. Shane's firm has done work for a lot of outdoors brands: Patagonia, AK Burton and Arc'teryx of course. Think of him as the Stephen Mann of hardware and softgoods. I believe his firm helped with Cohaesive, the new cord lock system.

For anyone interested, here is the guy's Instagram. In this picture he explicitly take credit for the wallets. 

Nope, I have a 13" air and the pack travel fine. I do use a cote&Ciel case which adds some bulk. Do you keep your laptop on the side of the divider closer to your back or to the front of the pack 

I have the black Field OS. I was referring to the collar greying. Everytime I wear mine, even the slightest touch will get my collar grey (probably from dead skim cells)

21 hours ago, edwardk said:

On a semi-related note...

What shoes do you guys like to wear with your Veilance pants? I only see them styled with Common Projects, and I find it a tad bland. Share what you guys have found out works, and maybe some pictures. This is a huge challenge for me. I own Indisce, Apparat, and Align. Typically enjoy wearing Nike Mercurials with Indisce and Apparat. 

I'm guilty of wearing them with CP Achillies. I've found Ultra Boosts work well with my Voro and Align. This season's CP winter combat boots looks good with AV. Ohhh, socks and Suicoke sandals look great too. 

34 minutes ago, Inkinsurgent said:

field OS is one of the most versatile veilance pieces ever. i practically live in mine.

I love mine too but do you find the collar getting dirty easily? 

4 hours ago, branespload said:

you remembered incorrectly

but here are random pics i took. my laptop divider thing was wonky so i sent it to warranty to see if there was something wrong with it (so ill prob get it back in 2018 lol)

What did you do to your V1? Mine use to sag and collapse on itself to but your's just looks miserable 

9 hours ago, dscent said:

@johngalt Do you mind providing a photo with a side by side comparison of the V1/V2 Nomins? Just want see how it compares in scale/shape to the older iteration.

This is a quick one I took a while ago when I bought my bag. Hope it helps

Edit: I remember @branesploadposting a much better comparison picture on his insta. My picture doesn't capture the depth and height differences between the bags

3 hours ago, Distorbiant said:

Anyone know what Goretex fabric this is?

 

And why isn't this listed in either of the 2017 collections?

https://www.eastdane.com/field-jacket-arcteryx-veilance/vp/v=1/1513087257.htm

3 hours ago, scamster said:

@Distorbiant the veilance field uses gore-tex pro.

The Field IS uses Pro, the stock Field uses a Gore 3L. I was pretty bummed out when I realized my jacket was only 3L. The fabric features a textured face and is rather thick. Excellent for the cold. 

1 hour ago, junkie_dolphin said:

It’s not listed because that version of the jacket has been discontinued—they’re making some small changes for spring 18.

I believe they are revising the face fabric to something with a smooth face and lighter denier. The chest pockets are going to be slanted inwards like the Haedn OS. Check out the SS18 preview for more pics

54 minutes ago, dscent said:

Thanks for this. Can the V2 fit a 2016 15" MBP. I tried googling for the dimensions and can't find any.

Yep. There is space is both compartments. The top loader may get in the way in the back compartment but as @Toilettebun indicated, it is only attached to the frame via velcro. Undoing it will free up a ton of space.

1 hour ago, junkie_dolphin said:

If what I’ve heard is true, my goodness, you’re not going to like what’s coming next year...

Personally I find the Patrol Down way too warm, even without the shell on. It actually feels warmer than the Monitor Down... not sure if that’s just subjective though. And I really don’t like the cut of the shell—the hood is weirdly small, and the length is in this weird in-between... not the Node, but not the Monitor either. I much prefer the Patrol IS.

There are a few pieces I'm looking forward to wearing next FW but I know which jackets you're referring to. I appreciate Taka's utilitarian sensibility and use of composite construction but I know I will miss Lars.

1 hour ago, foononym said:

* body material is slightly different, softer, probably no Merino blend

* label says M/M, but size is actually small

* inside label says 'ash sm' (small) , but the piece is black and the size is actually 'small'

* one arm is 2.5 cm shorter (!), cuffs too wide

* one panel back/below neck is asymmetric, one side is 1cm longer

* inside pocket material and construction/stiching is slightly different

* pocket zips are slightly different color and material

Generally it is not that bad with lots of details, but the wrong construction (arm too short) makes it especially bad.

Best to stay with the original. I have an original Dyadic Cardigan and that one is actually very nice!

 

Veilance fakes seem to be proliferating. Noticed this during my daily AV query https://www.kijiji.ca/v-clothing-men/mississauga-peel-region/arcteryx-arris-rain-jacket/1300181472?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true 

Hopefully I get some pictures 

11 hours ago, lockandload604 said:

Curious to what does everyone think of the Patrol down coat as a winter do it all coat? Anyone think it's "worth" the price tag compared to the monitor down, node down etc. Also can anyone comment on the warmth of the mid down later say compared to the cerium sv? Cheers!

I really like the Patrol shell. I think the pockets and and length are perfect if you're a shorter guy. Looks like a great hybrid between the the Node and monitor. I don't like the down puffer. I think the baffle detract from the overall aesthetic. I've tried it on and it is just as warm as the Node or Monitor; however, I probably won't pick it up as the pockets aren't insulated. I have no complaint in terms of price (though steep) but am just terribly off put by the down puffer. 

6 hours ago, dscent said:

How often does the Nomin Pack go on sale? I'm thinking of pulling the trigger but figured I'd wait if it ever goes on sale end season.

Last season AV rolled out a program where their products were only allowed to be put on sale at 20% on Canada day only. Past that, only out-of-season items that are no longer in production are allowed to go on sale. Of course certain retailers don't listen. I've only seen the V1 Nomin on sale once and it was when the V2 came out. The bag has been out for 4 years and never hit sales due to demand and strict AV control. 

You might get lucky if a retailer does something like a 20% off code. If you have any questions about the bag, drop me a line. Be glad to help

4 hours ago, Chiels said:

Very much appreciated your comments on the V2 Nomin. However I can't access the pictures. Are they level limited in this site? I do want to see those pictures..

 

Ah sorry, still new to using the site. I'll get them up shortly.

Edit: Added!

2 hours ago, Toilettebun said:

The top loader is connected to the back of the bag via velcro hence if you're laptop is bigger just open the velcro and boom your laptop is fixed 

Thanks very much for that. Thought it was just stitched shut. The gusset on the side still get in the way but opens up a lot of space. 

As promised, here's the full review of the V2 Nomin. I am thoroughly impressed after a week of use. Previously I rotated between the V1 Nomin, Arro 22 and a Patagonia Refugio. I will use these as benchmarks to compare. 

Dimensions and Capacity

The V1, V2 and Arro clocking at 26, 18, and 22L  respectively; however, the volumes are rather misleading and a poor indicator of capacity. Though the V1 and Arro are bigger than the V2 on paper, the V2 allocates space much better.

It features a dedicated side-access document and laptop compartment in the back. There is a rigid panel bifurcating the compartment which I use to separate paper and my laptop. It comfortably fits a 13 Mac Air, and three notepads (200 sheets). It is compatible with larger computers but the pocket above will get in the may, making access harder. The compartment is fully foam lined, obsoleting the need for a laptop case. Since the compartment is side access, it is disappointing that the bag no longer features a side handle. Overall, the compartment is much better than the V1 foam organizer. 

Unzipping the back zipper will reveal a quick access pocket in the top of the bag for quick top loading. I use it to store my sunglasses, key, wallet and hand sanitizer. There are gussets on both sides of the pocket to prevent spillage.

The front of the bag is a large top loader. There is a ripstop pouch sew to the top. It is considerably smaller and less accessible than the pouch in the V1 Nomin; however, the white interior makes locating items much easier. The rounded shape of the bag makes sidling the zips much easier than the V1.

Overall, though the V2 is the smallest of the three bags, I am able to load much more without worry of items pooling to the bottom of the bag. 

Utility

As a daily carry bag my preference for the V2 is beyond reproach. I am able to easily store, access and carry a variety of items without worry. Attached is an image of what I carry in the bag normally while still having a lot of unused space. 

The straps have been redesigned from the V1 and are now much more comfortable. Previous the S-shape of the V1 straps would dig into my pits and cause a great deal of irritation. The new shape does an excellent job mitigating this problem. I feel much less fatigue with the new straps as compared to the V1 and dare say the Arro too. A gentleman from the Arc store informed me that the straps are made from materials from their harness program and create torque to reduce pressure on the wearer's shoulders. The ladderlock is now concealed in the strap making adjustments harder but do rectify the problem of slippage. Previously when wearing the Arro with my Galvanic, I found the straps would crush the collar, the V1 and V2 Nomin are cut in a way to avoid contact with the collar.

Price

I know there was a lot of criticism over the price of the bag. Yes 800 USD is a lot of money but justified with the V2. It's amazing how effective the bag is at material allocation. The thin straps are incredibly comfortable and pack easily into a plane overhead. The shape is considerably more refined than the V1. If you can justify the Arris, Field or Align then get the Nomin, you'll get much more wear. I suggest checking the bag out in person. 

Thanks!

16 hours ago, branespload said:

18 for the new one? the silhouette is still pretty big for an 18L bag if that's the case, i wouldve believed it's still 26L

also, the seque seems small on paper but i was able to keep an index 5+5 packing cube, a 10L packing cube, 2 pairs of sneakers, a hat and the outlier UHWS in it on a recent trip. it was like 2 weeks worth of clothes as my personal item. not my fav for EDC but as a piece of luggage i like it a lot

Just got the V2 Nomin. I'm surprised its 18L as well. Compared to my Arro 22 it fits considerably more. With respect to the V1 Nomin, though it is 26L, the ripstop pouch takes up almost all of the front compartment.

Overall I'm really enjoin the bag and will post a full review soon 

2 hours ago, edwardk said:

Any tips on Veilance jacket sizing vs Mainline? I typically wear Medium in Mainline, I am  6'0 /175lbs athletic/thin. 

Just picked up a Veilance Align from FW14 in Medium, hoping its not TOO trim. Also thoughts on the condition? Kinda sad a few sold on grailed for 300 a few months ago. 

Veilance Align Med Black-Ebay

The align was an AV winter shell that was designed to accommodate layering. Think of it as the AV Beta AR. Though trimmer than mainline, the Align is considerably roomier than other AV shells. For reference I wear a M in the Arris but a M in the Align. I'm comfortably able to layer the Mionn (past season) under the Align. This picture displays the Align's layer abilities and fit the best. With some digging you can find some more fits of it from the original Haven editorial. 

Re wrist adjustor: Most AV do use elastic; however, the Align uses a strip of webbing floating between the face fabric and the wrist liner with a Cobrax snap at the end. There are two positions for the the snap to attach. As you pull the strap, the entire piece of webbing moves and cinches the wrist. The snap works by sliding to lock and unlock, as opposed to the conventional lift and press to fasten. You won't be too bothered by the additional length if any. 

I'm personally a fan of the jacket (bomber). As great the the OS looks in editorials and photos, it feels kindly silly to wear a wool soft-shell shirt. There isn't much opportunity to wear it with anything other than a tee or dress shirt. I also didn't like the absence of useful pockets. 

34 minutes ago, Toilettebun said:

Scroll back a couple pages @branespload went over it but for quick cap the nomin back pack is now a glorified laptop bag.

-new straps feels like it has a bit more padding from my experience and it covers the adjustable section now. Personally the new strap is a pain in the ass to adjust.

-front compartment opens up completely rather than assymmetrical and is your main compartment for storage. No more "floating" pocket.

-back compartment opens up assymmetrical now and has a quick access pocket on the top. Has a laptop sleeve and document holder. It's annoying how if you open the bag from the top you can only access the quick access pocket and not the rest of the compartment, you actually have to completely unzip it to access the rest of the compartment.

-no more side tab to hold it like a briefcase.

-top pull tab feels more solid now

-new shape is more rounded and "flatter"

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong this is all based on my experience with the bag for a day and some reviews I've read online. 

Thanks a lot. Sounds like the right fit for me. My main problem with the old Nomin was difficulty pulling the zippers around the corners. Hopefully the straps are more secure. My old pack straps would constantly slip in the ladderlock. 

I was quoted by an Arc employee that the pack is also 26L. Is that true? The pictures makes it look considerably smaller. 

I'll check it out in store this weekend.

Anyone with experience with the Nomin pack? Interested to know what the new features are. 

I thought samples were only made in medium. The seller seems to have every size available.

I am curious to know what the second predominately white paper tag is. The collar on the Dyadic looks a little different from mine. The shape may have been revised though. 

1 hour ago, Inkinsurgent said:

Yeah 2014/15 ish. I'm guessing their replacement guidelines either come with a certain amount of employee discretion or that they're very regularly updated. I've had to send some damaged items back, while i was asked to destroy others. I've also had every variation of "get the same item again" or "pick whatever costs the same". 

 

 

 

 

Tons of employee discretion. I've head the head warranty rep pull a lot of strings for me. When you send an item in, the warranty rep will do an assessment of your item and make notes under your case. They act as general guideline should you call be and deal with another rep. Some don't understand AV and consider it as "fashion" which isn't to be as durable as mainline. Those reps are generally more reluctant to repair or replace damaged AV items that clearly have QC problems. It always helps to get a second opinion. 

Huh I remember their CS to be much more lenient back in the day. If an item was being replaced under warranty, you could request any item of similar price. Now they will only offer you a replacement of similar function 

Edit: I don't know how far back you're going but I'm speaking from my experience circa 2014. 

Did they offer you the Indisce as a replacement to steer you away from another pair of ARs or did you request them. I ask because when AV recognizes there is a problem with a product, they typically will be reluctant to replace with an identical model. 

5 hours ago, Yardsale said:

Sorry if this has been asked before, what's the slimmest pants silhouette?

3 hours ago, AnomalousTautology said:

of what's currently on the website: Align,

for fall winter, probably the Voronoi...?

I would say the Align are the slimmest in how constricting they are. There really isn't any articulation past the seat. Sitting down you immediately will feel tightness. That being said, they are still the best option for work pants. They don't have any weird knee bulge while being more conformable and movement ready than ordinary chinos or dress pants. 

I could be wrong but I think the Voronois have a smaller leg opening that the Aligns. You will find more room in the thighs of the Voronois and a sharp taper past the knee. 

Edit: The slimmest AV pants I've tried are the Liminals. They're made from a waxed peached twill nyco. 

I was pretty surprised by how soft the Haedn OS was. No itchiness at all. The interior has fleece laminated. Only your neck is really touching the face-fabric. I'm not sure if it a difference in colour but I have found the Haedn OS to be softer than the jacket. 

I took the same size in the OS as I did my Arris, Field OS and Graph