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Lots of the Japanese brands have actual V-gusset inserts, so I'm also surprised to hear BR uses fake ones....

i'm very disappointed to be honest, even cheap EU made (non-loopwheel) sweatshirts with this style have the v-gusset inserts (lvc, our legacy..) i wonder if BR changed this detail with the new cut & fit?

I think the dilemma is that these sweaters can not be truly authentic as the ribs used are "modern" and that said companies are trying to offer a commercially acceptable good.

A true replica of a pre-1950's sweaters would have to sport a bigger neck opening or the v-gusset without any elastic fibers contained in the ribs.

but companies like BR are known for painstakingly recreating vintage fabrics, like their ma-1 flight jackets use nylon that is specially weaved for the same texture and weight as original 50/60's jackets. they don't usually use any modern techniques/fabrics, and i don't get what you mean by "trying to offer a commercially acceptable good" ?! btw wasn't the v-gusset insert a functional detail, allowing sweat from your neck/chest to be evacuated quicker?

not sure i follow your logic.. we are talking about vintage repro sweatshirts not modern day ones ?! BR is loopwheel tube constructed, the fit should not alter with wash.. i have to admit i'm quite surprised the V-placket is "fake" .. considering how places like history preservation rave on about the construction & authenticity of BR sweats (http://historypreser...php?uniqnum=547) btw i'm not sure the authentic v-plackets really have to do with the boxy shape of vintage sweats either..

i also got my first BR sweat not long ago, and although i love the tube construction, i was a little put off by the front V-placket that seems sown onto the sweatshirt and not cut out & sown like i've seen on other repros... knowing BR's reputation, i doubt they'd screw this up so do any vintage sweat experts know if this is how it was done back in the day? (btw you have to look inside out the sweat to notice this)

I'd buy a lot more LVC if the price started out reasonable.

same could be said for many other premium brands. LVC is actually pretty in line price wise with its competitors, even a tad cheaper than RRL (and their stuff is almost all made in china). where LVC falls short behind japanese repro brands, is indeed with tees & sweatshirts which aren't loopwheel or tube constructed. on a larger note, i really don't think LVC sells as much as people think, up until recently it was even said Levis hardly broke even with the line, but were maintaining it to keep a foot in the premium category and for legacy/credibility purposes. only recently with the explosion of the whole "heritage" trend has LVC known success and greater exposure, but the prices have steadily increased accordingly..

the details are indeed a little over the top for a repro brand like mccoy's, did the air force even wear/issue denim??!

that being said they are definitely unique and i'm sure top quality.. definitely post some fit pics

^ i have those, the tag is misleading, they won't shrink, only (unsanforized) raw denim does

pretty sure new standards are slim straight and petits are slim tapered. correct me if im wrong tho im not 100% sure, or you could

always check apc's website i mean thats what the internets for...

NS= Straight Leg

PS= Slim Straight

Cure= Slim

NC= Skinny

@sazon: i don't own roys (yet!) but i do have 8 or 9 pairs of raw LVCs which use unsanforized cone denim.. what i can tell you is this, the first soak indeed gets 80/90% shrinkage out of the way, however the subsequent 3/4 washes will continue the shrinking process (especially if first soak was cold). however, as discussed with length in these forums, there are ways to get raw denim to yield a perfect fit. when a raw pair is close to your true size, wearing it in the tub (ideal method) or wearing it as it's drying will guarantee a pair doesn't over shrink. if you're not comfortable doing that you can also pull the waist to stretch it while damp & always hang dry. this information probably comes a bit late as you've already soaked them, but maybe useful for the future ;-)

FW Lookbook is up on LVC site

my 1950's tab twills work shirt

still in pretty good condition considering it's age!

nah it makes sense, both 2501 are 501 repro models, but from different time periods hence the difference in cut & details. the 2502 on the other hand is a modified 501 & have the zipper hence the 502 which follows levi's referencing.. http://www.levisguid...m/502/502s.html

2501 has two models: classic straight which appears to be 501 40's repro with the leather patch, looser fit & regular straight a 501 60's repro with paper patch straight leg

2502 is a slim model, description says something about a 60's pair custom tapered for a steve mcqueen look (!) would be the equivalent of the 54z LVC has done imo

still available

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MMM HorseHide 5 Zip

(sorry fellaz fs link removed)

Size: 52 (Fits like a 50)

Color: Midnight Blue

Leather: Horsehide

Zips: Black Matte

Season: FW10

Condition: New / Unworn

Price: SOLD

Retail: 2000€ / $2600

Location: Paris, France

SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD

You know the one, total grail status moto swag… horsehide 5 zips are very rare and this was the last one made in Italy (production is now in Romania). Vegetable tan. I find the color totally amazing, when it's dark it looks black but in the sunlight subtle hues of blue indigo pop out, and the contrast with the black matte hardware is just superb. once broken-in this one's going to age n i c e l y..

I've actually never ever worn it, its been in the closet since it's purchase.. believe it or not I'm just not a leather dude!

This one really fits like a slim 50, i'm normally a 48/50 in anything Dior,Raf,Margiela etc..

I've never purchased anything size 52, but this particular model has a very very narrow cut at the waist, so any size smaller and i had trouble zipping it up.. (check measurements below)

This particular model is from Line 14 (replica) the selected horsehide and tanning is similar to those chosen in 50's & 60's moto jackets for exceptional beauty & durability. This jacket will last a lifetime (unlike most current offerings where a single scuff might ruin it)

This is probably a pretty unique opportunity to get a rare cult jacket of incredible quality in totally new condition.. at severely undervalued price (i'd act quick before i change my mind )

measurements

armpit to armpit: 21"

waist: 18.5"

shoulders: 18.8"

front length: 20.8"

back length: 24"

finally got mine today...phew that was a long @$$ wait !!!!

fit is perfect (but im familiar with ebbets)

black on black is slick but i really wish the design would have kept the satin green under

its the ebbets trademark but oh well, maybe next round?

54s hardly get any mention here as they're considered unauthentic.

what they are is very flattering and modern looking, making them the perfect lvc n00b gateway model (i don't mean that in a condescending manner btw). most connoisseurs though will agree it kind of defeats the purpose of going repro in the first place. i do own a pair, as they are made in usa quality and match well with my contemporary garments. 1947 & 1966 are also quite easy wearing but the vintage repro virus is a strange one, i've found myself slowly but surely attracted to the quirkier models, up to a point where i am finally comfortable in wearing my 20's 201 (arguably the hardest model to pull off) in public, the gf even said the other day she thought it was her favorite model on me when she was like wtf when i first got them a year and a half ago, i guess they're an acquired taste!

was drooling over those the other day but what's the verdict on sizing/quality vs the previously julian made boots?

Maybe it's the Southerner in me, I just don't like socks. I feel much more comfy without. That picture of Serge Gainsbourg is fucking awesome though. Is that a Moog he has next to him?

fair enough, it's a Fender Rhodes 73 Suitcase

I think xrevengex looks better than that dude. I don't care how important he is, he looks douchey.

actually SG had the reputation of being the douchebag king lol.. i still think he's got mad swag

@xrevengex i get the whole 80's prep references & im a big fan of epaulet but i just can't get over the no socks with leather footwear thing. i've noticed it rides high amongst brooklynites . imo the only guy who could rock this look with confidence was Serge Gainsbourg with his cutoffs & white repettos (mind you it was 83)

Cycling in very rocky and steep terrain. Mine are the newer made in Turkey ones, with Japanese denim, but i think any slim cut jeans would have ripped in that situation.

a-ha.. i knew you were doing something incredibly wrong!! i'm into cycling myself but would never ever do downhill/off-road in dry denim, or any denim really. if you really must for some kind of reason i'd recommend the 605, they're slim but with elastane, same goes for the specifically made new commuter line...

dickies is now cheap MIC crap... i've had the back pocket button pop off on the 3rd wear... never had an issue with made in USA levis denim and that includes 501z & 505's... besides how the hell did you rip an almost new pair of 505s?!!