aho

@Broark much appreciated, added to the wish list! 

^Most excellent! Got me wanting a pair now! Noticed we're typically the same size (I think?) and you went with the 36; Does it wear tight in the waist at all?

You may be sick of it @Jared_Lee but you are definitely killing it 

1 hour ago, indigoeagle said:

Interesting

Do you have a link?
I couldn't find it.

Thanks

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjP3JWFvLup/

On 9/12/2022 at 4:34 PM, Cold Summer said:

I think it's probably less the denim itself and more the treatment (where in the contest a lot of people washed + tumbled their jeans all the time.) There's this sort of thing that happens to denim when it's tumble dried a bunch, the way the seams pucker and crinkle and have this accompanying contrast around the coin pocket, waistband, etc that looks very dad-jeans to me, and I feel like I'm seeing the characteristics of the washing/tumbling more than the denim itself. This is one reason why I wash sparsely, aside from Sick Fadez Contrast, my jeans never develop that sort of characteristic. But it all comes down to personal preference I guess, obviously some people here like that look and certain types of denim with marble characteristics (WH Banner, Denim Bridge fabrics) seem to reward that type of treatment.

I've been summoned! 

Of course, I'm a proponent of washing one's jeans in regular intervals both for the health of the fabric, and since I've always preferred "vintage" fades overall. Heck, I even like the $20 over tumbled Wrangler dad-jeans look! 

Doesn't seem to matter how long I've been into this hobby, but every time I see a pair of "classic" 47's (in ANY condition), it brings a smile to my face and a "damn..." to my mouth 

On 9/14/2022 at 12:52 AM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

This is definitely not a new question and has probably been answered multiple times...heck, there is probably even a dedicated thread for this question but who knows?

So what is your "white whale" pair of jeans? Which pair you look for? Probably a pair of deadstock 501XX?

For me personally (as you might have guessed) it would be a pair of Denime and namely the Kyoto Edition. They were hard to come by even when they were still produced but nowadays, I think it's a lost battle.

So what about you?

Although I'm completely out priced at this point, a pair of 1946 501XX's would be me grail (any condition really).

As far as the repro game, I'm lucky to own all I need from Ooe. Would've been nice to experience their #13 or #36 denim though in an 03XX cut...

^Nigo is displaying his vintage collection in Tokyo at the Bunka Gakuen Costume Musem; I'll be sure to post pictures next month when I visit!

Love supporting S&S when I can, but reach out to other shops that sell Ooe if you missed out. bF mentioned earlier, but Barnstormer also recently received a shipment. Also keep an eye on Ooe's IG, or reach out in advance, and you'll be able to order from them directly. Admittedly you'll only have maybe one or two chances a year to buy a pair, but it's always worth it. There's definitely not mainstream hype for the brand, so it's certainly possible to buy a pair with some leg work.

Thought this could be fun as I caught myself earlier…

Confessions of a denim head:

I make a face of disgust whenever I see jeans rolled up and it isn’t selvedge 

I don't think you guys get it; You're paying for the time and effort it took to start breaking in all of those pairs! 

No denim, but I'm hoping you'll give some leeway  Had the opportunity to try on some vintage goodies recently; Lug to lug seems a bit too long for my wrist, but I promise they wear well in real life and in proportion to my frame. Not that they're mine to worry about wearing anyway haha

Lighter color fabric (leftish side) = Cone Denim, darker fabric = OAXX4!

I have a habit of throwing my hemmed denim scraps into the laundry to see how they fade over time. The top fabric is Cone Denim from my OA03XX-BS (Barnstormers) at around ten months old. The bottom fabric is the new OAXX4 fabric from my recent buy earlier this month. As you can see, the new OAXX4 is most definitely a fast fader, with the Cone Denim holding on to it's color very well. I figure it just around 5/6 washes for the new fabric, which is already showing some white from the high impact areas.

9 hours ago, (10chars) said:

Congrats @JDelage! That blue looks great.

@aho Have you owned the Tudor BB36? Its specs seem to be up your alley.

Owned the silver dial for a couple weeks when it first launched; I had my 34mm OP at the time which made me pick out all the things I didn't like about the Tudor unfortunately (looked a bit clunky, bracelet was squeaking)...That said, if I had to choose one, I'd actually go for the BB31 as I'm really trending smaller these days. Haven't revisited as I picked up the 124270 (36mm Explorer) which was probably what I was looking for all along in this type of watch 

4 hours ago, (10chars) said:

What are everyone's thoughts on the newly rereleased Tudor Ranger? I'm a big fan although I would prefer it in 36mm. I'd be contemplating purchasing one if I didn't already have two similar 3/6/9 dial watches already.

With my tiny wrists I'd be happier with a 34 or 36mm but 39mm is reasonable for most wrists. I think it's a watch with broad appeal and the T-fit clasp and non faux riveted bracelet is icing on the cake, but stylistically it's not to my preference due to the fauxtina. Definitely lots of value though if you like the aesthetic! 

4 hours ago, Smallrod said:

Hey, those OA01’s are the new XX4 denim correct?  How did you wash them and how much shrinkage did you get?

I picked up mine today.  When going through the ordering process and emailing OOE a few times, I got the impression from them this denim shrinks a lot.  Ryo suggested up to 4” on the inseam.  

Yup these are the new fabric! Unfortunately I don't/didn't measure my jeans before or after, at this point I just order my waist +2 inches (same size in all Ooe to be honest) and know it'll work out lol

I washed them on hot + threw them in the dryer once and they turned out fine. They do seem to have a little stretch to them, so the shrinkage part Ryo mentions is likely true (lots of shrink, lots of stretch), but more notably they seem to have crocked more than their past fabrics have from such a wash routine. The fading properties/tendency toward crocking seem quite similar to the speeds of Warehouse fabric this time around. I'm looking forward to breaking them in! The fabric on my OA02XX-505C (I think that's the code?) are some of the harder to fade fabrics I've experienced from Ooe

@beautiful_FrEaK did you buy Rockets yet? Been eyeing them for a while and realized you already posted about them earlier in this thread  Always impressed by his fades on IG, hard to tell even which is vintage vs. Rockets many times!

5 hours ago, busterthehuman said:

Wait you only wore these for 6 months? How often? These are crazy good!

Much appreciated, really just getting started though! I wear them every day, but usually walk around 3 hours a day with little sitting (stand up desk, dog walks, general WFH lol)

43 minutes ago, Cold Summer said:

Interesting, I've felt the Banner denim is a pretty traditional/conservative fabric and only my FC 1108s are more vintage-style, in my closet. The 14.5 oz is pretty aggressive in comparison and I've found it to be one of the fastest-fading fabrics I've worn. Most of the exaggerated banner denim fades I've seen appeared to come from people who constantly tumble-dried their jeans. Frequent tumble drying seems to cause a pretty wild texture on that denim, but it's easy to avoid if you don't tumble.

To be fair, my impression is based on the earliest iterations of the banner denim, I'm not sure if it's any different since 2014/15(?) but it wouldn't surprise me if they've regulated it a bit more. That said, I'm definitely a proponent of crinkly vintage/marble fades and I enjoy that about it  Different strokes though, that's what makes this hobby so interesting!

Like many of us who came up during the mid-late 00's, my first foray into Japanese denim was of the "obviously awesome fabric" category: Flat Head, PBJ, Samurai etc. From 2010 onwards I started gravitating towards more repro minded brands like WH and FC, which I've stuck to generally, with more focus on "independents" like Ooe from 2012 onwards. I have no disappointments, but here are some surprises that come to mind:

-I'm not the biggest fan of Warehouse's banner denim, despite being a huge fan of the brand. It's certainly capable of masterful fades, but I find the feel of the fabric itself a bit too thick and cartoonish, with stringy threads and vertical falling/striations that seem too programmed. 15th Anniversary fabric remains my favorite (for the blues!), as well as the newer dead stock blues which seem a bit more even/balanced

-Double Volante never really took off here; I remember being so blown away by Kuniyoshi-san when miz gave us a tour of his shop and all the hidden details baked in to his jeans during the Evisu tour. I guess he never truly opened up to international orders due to language limitations, but I can't think of a single broken in pair on sufu!

-Blue in Green going fashion/streetwear focused; Interesting to see many of the brands BiG fought for being dropped and picked up by Self Edge as we moved into the mid 2010's (anyone else remember all that Samurai distribution/contract drama?)

-Reddit; I've never even glanced at Reddit's raw denim scene, but I'm guessing that's where a majority of discussion lies these days? Crazy to think of kids who were literal kids during the Sufu hey days learning about Momotaro, etc. now. I get chatted up on Instagram once in a while and have to explain what sufu is/was 

27 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Dibs on the Devis..

They're borderline too small so i need to measure numerous pairs when i get home

Can you hang onto them for me @aho and i'll let you know for sure later this evening?

Thx

edit- are those measurements fresh from the wash and dryer?

Fresh from the wash and dryer 7 years ago  I probably tugged on the waist band a bit to see if they'd fit in all honesty, but haven't touched them since.

Lots for sale! Ask for more pictures if needed, as I don't want to clog up the thread. All jeans measured BiG style in inches. Payment preferred via Zelle or Venmo, but of course PayPal also accepted. Shipping CONUSA preferred.

Warehouse 1004XX RAW W32 L32 (circa 2012-13): 

Price: $275

Purchased from the Warehouse shop in Tokyo, this has exposed back pocket rivets and suspender buttons. RAW pair, it never came with a flasher or tags.

LVC 517 W31 L34 RAW (Circa 2009/10)

Price: $150

517 for all your boot cut needs

45rpm 
Price: $230

Not sure what cut this is (kazehiko, sorahiko, etc.), but you all probably know lol. This is a straight cut, wears like a 36" waist if they followed conventional sizing. Purchased one wash from the Kyoto shop and never worn, this has all the life left in it as I'm unfortunately more of a 38" waist (which they don't offer).

Warehouse 1001ZXX W33 L34 
Price: $150

A real deep cut, this is a 15th Anniversary 1001ZXX (zipper fly) from Warehouse. Purchased from Yahoo Auctions in 2011, this one has about 3-4 months of wear on it from the previous owner and maybe about that many washes. (If you can guess, they never fit me either lol). In my opinion, my favorite/best fabric from Warehouse ever (I have a pair of 15th Anniversary 1001XX raw I'll never sell). Offset belt loop, 50's zipper details.

Resolute 710 W36 L32 One Wash
Price: $185

Purchased one wash around 2016, and of course never worn due to waist sizing.

Devis 1946 Contest Jeans W32 L36
SOLDSOLDSOLD

What a throwback; Devis contest jeans in one wash, another pair I never wore due to waist sizing. You'd think I'd have it down having organized the contest lol. Features red tabs on both pockets and green printed lot info mimicking the infamous 1946 pairs.

Blue In Green 5th Anniversary Jeans RAW W31
Price: $175

Raw pair celebrating Blue In Green's 5th anniversary. This is a slim tapered fit, featuring fabric woven from the same legend that does Oni denim. Features WWII style laurel wreath buttons along the entire button fly. 

TCB 50's Contest Jeans
Price: $75

My TCB contest jeans. A number of washes on these, but still plenty of life left. 

Warehouse 900XX W38 L32 One Wash
Price: $185

Purchased in one wash state from Loftman 1981 in Kyoto in 2019. Funny enough these are the right waist size, but the rise unfortunately didn't work out for me. No wear on these, essentially a new pair. 

Thanks for the interest! As always, DM with questions, etc.