Blackplatano

Ya could say anything you want but...

50 cent is a GENIUS...

And i'm not talking about the mic.

A 34 would have fit exactly like that POST WASH.

That was not a good move.

THe best you do is NOT soak them and hope they stretch, but that might not work.

If you soak them they will shrink like hell.

from what i can tell, since indigo isnt water soluble, just a lot of washing will not fade your jeans, if you arent wearing them a lot. weve all heard about a certain repro denim house( i believe flathead, please correct me if otherwise) in which a contest was held between the president/ceo, a mid-manager, and a mailroom/menial worker( someone who isnt just sitting on their ass all day). the president admitted to frequent washing to try to accellerate the wear process, but it didnt work. like cheep said, these jeans only fade where worn, as quality rope dyed warp threads should. this is why theyre hot. keep in mind that hot water has more energy than cold water, and the propensity for it to disolve foreign substances is increased as well. thats why i wash in really hot water, to kill germs, remove more dirt, and to make em fit better.

Honestly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

If you start using space every couple of lines instead of writting one big ass paragraph, your post will be more readable.

My true size is 31.5. So i could go either way.

The confusion with the shrinkage is that i have heard that it's best to size UP while some people say it's ok to go true to size.

RingRing told me to get a 33 to accomodate shrinkage, for example. But then Miz went true to size or size down one and turn out OK.

The theres stretching, i have heard that they barely don't stretch but you say that they stretch a ton.

jubei...How did your DD shrink and stretch? I'm stuck between going with a 31 and a 32.

So theres 3 different types of 1000xx denim?

So i'm guessing the dubbleworks 1000xx denim is the lower quality one since it's so cheap...

20's the slimemst of all the dd's?

Yea..are you picking them up?

Chicken.

Isn't the eternal grail guy wearing the texas samurai's too?

How are his jeans going?

https://own-magazine.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=22&products_id=117

From what i know of DDs...these should be the 1920's. But own magazine has mislabed them then. Can somebody comfirm that this is the 1920's?

Gimmegimme,

How much is the shipping and such?

Aha!

However, as said before adding beltoops to a 1900 is alot more work than adding suspenderbutton's to a 1920!

I think we are missing something. I can't see whether there are any belt loops. Maybe the guy does have rivets and we can't see them?

I was planning on buying from Own magazine, especifically the 1920's they have mislabed, is there anything sketchy about them?

I think they are the 1900's.

It can not be the 1920 no matter how badly some of you want it to be, because of the suspender buttons.

The 1930 has extra rivets that the guy does not have, so it has to be the 1900.

It goes to show that 1900s are kinda slim.

I'll make this short, you're an imbecile. Do you not read the posts before yours?

You might have not noticed but me and everyone else who responded were referring to Lupe Fiasco from the start. Who knows what the fuck your dumb ass was talking about?

Next time, if you're going to try and quote someone thinking you know what the topic is at hand, atleast use proper formation and sentence fluency, your pre-education chicken scratch will not do.

Taking in consideration your avatar, I should've never even bothered with your quaint logic. I knew it would eventually lead to a gaping pit of idiocy.

I'm done with you. Troll.

LLLLMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.................

I swear...everyone in superfuture who get's his ass kicked in an argument has to resort to attacking grammer and spelling to drive attention away from the fact that they were just OWNED.

You my bitch.

I never implied that fame made one a better artist potentially. However these days people solely judge by popularity. You think Lupe got all his fanbase because of his lyrics? I don't think so. His style is strongly influenced by Kanye West, so if one was to say Lupe Fiasco is the best, then wouldn't that make Kanye West a God? It's the image he created for himself that made him widely known. He went from gangster, to skater, to popstar, to a fashion guru. All for what? He's not true to the roots.

FIrst of all...

Why do you keep talkin about lupe and kanye and avoiding the real issue?

your argument is full of shit because it has nothing to do with lyrics, just weak opinions.

You make a lot of false assumptions (and use faulty logic) and ended up making no sense.

let me give you an example;

lupe's rhyming was not influenced by kanye much...but lets assume it has. Does that mean kanye is automatically better than him? That would mean lil richard is better than the beatles because he influenced them. The beatles worth is not determined by the greatnest of their influences, so lupe's shouldn't be either.

i could argue with you about that mess of a arguement you wrote but i'll just note how ironic it is that you look down upon people judging artist by popularity than you proceed to judge lupe by a whole list of shit that has nothing to do with skills.

in fact you are guilty of judging rappers by popularity too, but instead of how famous you praise them by how unknown.

You say what do the artist I name bring to the table that isn't already available? You should slap yourself a couple times and re-analyze your own questions. What has Lupe brought to the table that isn't already available? All the artists I named have already done it pre-2000, how would one compare them to Lupe who wasn't known until Kanye's album release?

What has lupe brought to the table? Are you kidding? with all the mainstream bullshit he is more than a welcomed change. If you really have to ask that you don't get it.

Again, what does fame have to do with skills, if he wasen't known until kanye so what?

the artist you mentioned are either WAY past their prime like dr. octagon or not doing anything special. Some from your list are good, but it isn't anything mind blowing.

There's a big difference with what I'm saying and with what you're saying. I'm comparing Lupe to artists that have been around along time and done it many times before. You seem to be comparing other artists who've already hit their prime when Lupe was still in diapers.

WTF?!?!?! This doesn't make sense. I don't know if it's a contradiction or plain stupid.

but...

the people you mentioned are old as hell...Artifacts did their shit in the early to mid 90's. WTF are they doing now?

I mentioned canibus, who had a album this year, immortal who is coming out pretty soon and talib who just came out...WTF are you talking about? Canibus is spitting some of the hottest shit ever right now...He IS in his lyrical prime. So what if he stopped been famous in 1999, aren't you not concerened with fame?

I mean let's take a look at your list. Did you just type some random artists you thought that might still be hip and good examples? Canibus? Inmortal? Do you mean Immortal? Talib Kweli? Talib hasn't put out anything good since Eternal Reflection/Blackstar. Little brother? What the fuck is Little Brother now that 9th Wonder left? Lastly you have AZ on there before Wu-Tang? To me it looks like a list some backpacker would make after going to Rock The Bells for their first time.

What does the WU have to do with this? This isn't a top list nigga...

Hold up...was that your top list? lol

BTW Canibus has 3 rhymes for every word any of your rappers can spit.

and you sound like a independent rock fan that doesn't like a band as soon as they get hot.

Keep that bullshit in seattle, new york niggas will pwned you.

Cosign on Bis, I don't think he's saying much either

what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2dQHwP7kAY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y3gaaynx3dU

need more evidence? This is not as loaded but hot none the less

You most likely can't even cope with the shit I listen to.

They don't get radio play so you probably don't know who they are.

Naw, YOU can't even cope with the shit i listen to.

Unless you listen to this

hip hop is the tip of the ice berg. Overall, that track is harder than your whole list combined.

^ Sorry....but Talib fell off....I do agree on Immortal Technique, though.

That doesn't diminish his past. He still betta den most rappers out there on his worst day.

You most likely can't even cope with the shit I listen to.

They don't get radio play so you probably don't know who they are.

The Weathermen

Boot Camp Clik

Dr. Octogan

Stronghold

Molemen

Artifacts

Akbar

AoTP

QN5

Who do you consider strongsauce? 2pac? Big? Nas? Big L? Mainstream artists?

An underground artist that is waiting to blow up is not any better than an artist that already blew up. We all know that fame does not make somebody a good rapper, but it doesn't make anybody a bad one either. So your attitude that fame diminishes a artist is plain wrong.

What i consider strongsauce?

Canibus

inmortal

talib kweli

little brother

AZ

tupac, biggie, Nas, BIg L are all hot. whether they are underground or not doesn't say anything.

as for your list, i like the boot camp clik but what do they bring to the table that isn't available? Say what you want but i'll take big L over the artifacts anyday. Akbar is another one that isn't much different then the rest.

In fact tell me this shit aint hard.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFeyHE9SvnY

then what do you consider strongsauce?

The beat on Daydreaming was amazing, but Lupe's sarcastic preaching really turned me off.

That was the best part

^^^ STFU

How you gonna dismiss a song like

"he say she say" that easily...do you

even listren to lyrics?

Daydreaming is pure crack.

Beat is on point, the lyrics is popping.

And he is actually saying something.

What else you looking for?

If you dismiss something because it talks

about a issue you heard before, than

i guess all songs must suck, because i have never

heard a song that really said something revolutionary

that has never in the history of mankind been said.

There are plenty of revolutionary songs in musical and

lyrical terms...but not in what is actually said.

If anybody disagrees, name on said that is truly

revolutionary in terms of content. nothing is new.

Not even this. even though its a hell of a track

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hOdBu4--22Y

Just got this..

How does it compare to the samurai belt?

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^^^ sexy belt

The gayest forum on the internet is talkin ganstah shit?! lol

get the fuck outta here

you don't just get fat or muscle like its a lottery...

regardless, you need to gain sometype of weight...125 lb is not healthy

please see this about the sc handmade denim

http://www.take5jeans.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=715

you already want to pre order?