Blackplatano

what the :confused: ? i was sure as hell that the APC repro comment was a joke. There should not be a Nudie or APC "repro" in any way shape or form.

Maybe in 20 years?

Im sure it wasen't. Since this SExIH jeans is essentially a dior repro, there is no reason why a Nudie repro can not be made.

Kiya.

If you only care about skinny jeans that's cool. But i assume that the reason you only sell the dior repro in store the first week is to increase the presence of SE in it's hood and set it apart while creating a loyal fan base right? After all, exclusivity is a good way to make a store the "it" place to shop. If im correct in my assumption then neglecting the non skinny is not a good way to really bring heads in the store. After all, isn't this a marketing move more than anything?

But whatever.

1) FF 9

2) FF 10

3) Chrono cross

4) FF 6

5) FF 8

Yes, i now...

Im a final fantasy gropie. those are my favorites, but not the best (ever).

^^^

pics?

I don't really understand the imperial collab.

I though the concept was to reproduce jeans with great cuts but with better denim and quality. Like doing the dior cut with the iron heart denim.

But is imperial really that far from dior? I don't think the quality would be that different then the diors. Afterall, the concensus on imperial is that the quality is similar to nudie.

Also, if SE is doing repros of modern jeans, A RRDS repro should def be in the works.

I don't mind the bootcut, but if everyone else does then it would still be cool if SE made a straight leg version. Which wouldn't be a repro. I second the APC repro too. Only i would rather see the rescue.

Lastly, the sugarcane collab was mentioned to be a slim jean. Are all the collabs gonna be skinny jeans? If all the collabs are skinny jeans then you are missing out on a large demographic of non-skinny jean wearers. Not only would making regular fit jeans provide variety, but it would generate more excitement since the announcement of a SE collab would eventually make people think "Damn, another nut buster". That's IF you collabs keep been done. Something that can be worn tight or loose would be ideal. Like a super slubby, natural indigo, 19 OZ sugar cane RRDS repro.

XXX for fit would be cool, but the current XXX has some flaws. Some jeans are not really boner inducing, they are just there because of its name. To me the XXX should be the hall of fame, not an equal opportunity sort of deal.

but anyways...why isn't the evo thread a sticky?

:confused: ...all i see is pbj's full of dirt.

Give those a real wash. i hope nobody would wear visually dirty jeans, that would be a new low.

Almost everything has a name depending on location, color, etc. (honeycombs, for example).

SO...i think

This should be called a "camo fade".

since it kinda looks like camouflage

What do you do in NYC to get that type of wear?

that is one damn sexy patch.

If by sexy you mean over sized.

The belt loops should be smaller too, and the right pocket arc should be going to the left.

But that's my opinon.

lmao at your prices

Just go to styleforum.net

they love 5ep out there.

Care to elaborate.

1,2,4

look at your list. JUST LOOK AT IT...

Mac dre? 2 short?

C'om man, don't make me lose faith in humanity...

i actually am a jazz trumpet player who moved to new york to play jazz. started hanging out with a lot of jazz cats that i looked up to and everyone was broke. that's when i figured producing hip hop makes more sense. but jazz is still my first love.

You're a trumpet player?

SO am i...i decided not to do the pro thing because of the same reason you just gave...

Anyways...

Booker little is the man im listening to at the momment.

He only has 4 albums as a leader, but he would be one of the greatest if it wasn't for his clifford brown-sque death. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82iayq015lQ

Mingus is also some next level shit. He strikes that balance of outside and inside that seems right.

Some of you might not be ready for this....but check this out

Coltrane & miles of course, but that should be assumed....

BTW has anybody NOT seen this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FAKRpUCYY

Wayne shorter & lee morgan

LOVE this video...LOVE this shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjZd24nWTk just so calm and intense at the same time

My idol in his prime...

anybody also likes jazz dancing...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olrL12XZuq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HIXxbs2gE0

1. Mac Dre is the greatest. Listen to some real Mac Dre song and you will know why.

2. Andre Nickatina another great. (this is more a preference placement but def deserves top five status)

3. Tupac (has to be in the top 3)

4. Too Short (wrote the game)

5. Jay Z/Nas (love both)

Honorable mentions

Eminem

Lil Wayne

Biggie

WTF...........

Actually...after reading the rest of the thread, all the lists are bad...

Rick ross?...Lil Wayne?...2 FUCKING SHort? PUSHA T????

BEST RAPPERS OF ALL TIME

1. 2pac

2. B.I.G

3. Nas

4. Rakim

5. Jay-z*

Honarable.

BIG PUN

BIG L

Cannibus

eminem

WU

FAB

did u see the 3rd detailed pic down? if that's not slubby, don't know what is. must... have... these...

Saw the pic. Maybe it's different denim, but when i was shown a sample of what the denim will be like, it was slightly different. Either way, 006 denim is what i was told it will have.

BWT...Those will not fade anytime soon. Are there any pics of indigo warpXweft jeans that have actually faded?

Yeah... that looks just like the Nando's in terms of the color cast... very deep. It's going to be interesting to see the same color indigo as the 45rpm but with the PBJ slub -action.

They won't be slubby. They will have the non-sluby 006 denim with the 005 fit. I was told this by the BIG guys btw.

How can you expect the SJ to look good if you only gave them 3 months?

What, i cant lace them with the diff laces and see how they look? sick and tired of these slick ass remarks from you kids. If you dont want to buy then get the fuck out of here and go do some damn push-ups.

You a bitch...hope you dont sell shit, and this thread is already on top, or else i wouldn't risk bumping it..

first, raw denim has never really gone out of style.

second, you have no clue what you are talking about. take an economics class, open your own retail business and then die in a fire.

i could continue to poke holes in every single one of your points but it would be fruitless since everyone who knows anything around here already knows better.

i applaud his ignorance.

*applause*

bottom line: if you want to buy from BIG or selfedge, do it. if you want to get your stuff another way, and feel confortable doing so, go for it.

but dont come on here and make implications that gordon or kiya are gouging anyone. thats weak.

Take an economy class?

What makes you think i've never taken economy classes? I already have idiot.

You will continue to poke holes in every single one of my points? LLLLLOOOOOLLLLLL

To continue something, you have to have previously started. You did not poke any holes since all you did was say that i should take economics and die.

Your arguement makes no sense. lol

It's pathetic dude. The irony of you dismissing my post because of my "ignorance" and then responding with one of the most illogical and ignorant things i have read all day.

Take your fallacies elsewhere bitch.

numbering a bunch of opinions doesn't make them facts

Was i suppose to site my sources? WTF!? is this the scientific american forum? We are talking about things that are subjective. Facts can not be subjective.

your whole post is unsupported conclusions, shitty premises and overall bad logic.

saying raw jeans will go out of style is like saying a white t-shirt will be uncool next month.

numbering the damn premises is not obvious enought for you?

and yea, a couple years ago raw denim WAS out of style. In fact, raw denim goes in and out of style like anything else. A couple years ago only your girlfriends father wore them. Just because they are worn at any given time does not mean they are fashionable.

this thread had nothing to do with whether or not three hundred dollar jeans are worth the money. it was about price differences between retailers in the states vs. japan.

no one needs to flame you...you just did it yourself...

And im saying the prices are BOTH unfair...Read between the lines.

this thread is full of unsupported conclusions, shitty premises and overall bad logic.

NO jeans discussed in SF are worth their price. $300 for a pair of jeans that takes $30 (or less) to make is ridiculous. Why?

1) They are raw.

Raw jeans require less effort to make than distressed jeans. This, in an ideal world would make raw jeans cheaper. Rawness should not be a selling point to drive up the price since in essence they are "unfinished".

2) Lacking details.

Most of the jap jeans are repros. they lack individuality, good hardware, details, or a lot of things that could potentially distinguish them. It does not take creativity to make those jeans. After all, they are just copies.

3) Construction

The construction on jap jeans is not the selling point. I have seen cheaper cheaps put together better. I would consider the construction average.

4) Original levi's were cheaper

I might not have any receipts from 1947, but my understanding is that jeans were used by the poor working class. Farmers, construction workers, etc. Old timers have told me that the original levi jeans (that the jap companies copy) were very afffordable when they were kids (1940's +). These are the same people that still think $50+ for a pair of jeans is alot of money. Since those original Levi's were the quality standard that the jap companies try to reproduce, it makes no sense that repros are way more expensive.

Why are the jap jeans so damn expensive?

Because people are willing to buy them. If you take the bussiness side out of the equation, A pair of dyed cotton trousers would no way be worth over $100.

Sevens and true religions are also not worth their price. That is probably the only sentence that SuFu would agree with me on. SuFu would probably argue that 7's and TR's are inferior because of the quality of the denim, etc. SuFu would say that marketing is what drives the price of mainstream jeans. SuFu would say that jap jeans are different.

Unfortunatly, SuFu doesn't realize that not marketing is a form of marketing. Yes, jap jeans have been fed to you in the same marketing sense as mainstream jeans. How? By you being conditioned by your peers in superfuture.com. Visiting superfuture is an extreamly good way of being conditioned. Why? Being exposed to the same community will eventually lead to you sharing believes with that community. So basically, people will start believing something just because "everybody" else believes it.

Don't believe me? Need some example?

1) zippers

People here like buttoms despite the convinience of zippers. Some people even admit but that they think zippers are more convinient. Others give LAME reasons for liking buttoms. They simply prefer buttom fly because others do.

2) Nudie

Nudie used to be hailed in SF. Great fit, good construction, good denim and overall quality. BLA BLA BLA. then all of a sudden some key members get tired of nudie and guess what. It suddenly sucks. Some say it's because it started to be too popular, but plenty of people have never seen nudies in person and have no real reason to think that it is mainstream,other than that they heard it on SuFu.

Also, popularity does not change the quality of jeans. So all the good qualities nudies had did not disappear just because your neighbor wears them now. This proves my point.

Eventually jap jeans will suffer the same fate as nudie and all of a sudden all the justifications for wearing stiff, generic looking jap jeans will disapear.

I like repros. That point might seem contradictory to this post, but i like them. They have a lot of good things going for it. But let's not forget that distressed denim exist for a reason.

I just realised this post went a little off topic from the original subject, but fuck it. Im not editing it right now, i have shit to do. Spelling be damned.

P.S I expect to be flamed since that's exactly what a group of deeply committed followers would do. So flame away, prove me right

How much do 45 RPM sorahikos weight? They feel very light.

The samurai contest jeans are 15 oz right?

Thanks

tooth paste fell on my jeans. I try to to remove but it stays white. How do i eliminate the damn tooth paste stain?

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/d-stock/rm-331/

They look pretty good, the leather makes me think of some S&M shit but the fit is good. The hybrid straight-bootcut, carpenter leather/denim is on the next level.