Artisandenim

If it fits good in store, after a bit the denim will stretch back out to what it originally was, then yes.

Damn, still getting the hang of this. Cheers for that - after reading so many posts I started second guessing myself.

If it fits good in store, after a bit the denim will stretch back out to what it originally was, then yes.

Right. Just about to enter the Realm of Raw with a pair of 710xx, possibly 15th anniversary edition size/availability allowing. I've read most of this thread and have taken a lot of helpful info re: size and fit to confirm my choice of the 710s. I do however have a size/fit question from an angle I haven't seen covered... Namely, I tried a pair on at S.O.A.S on a recent trip to London. The size I chose was pretty much bang on, perhaps a tiny, tiny bit tight. My question then is, if they are a perfect fit in the shop brand new, will they be the right size to buy bearing in mind soaking/shrinking and subsequent stretching?

Ps two things I really, really don't want are saggy arse or hip flare...