MileHighEvertonian

Thanks, volvo. That's some helpful info. Thigh measurements, in particular, seem to be hard to find for TCBs.

I'm hoping somebody here might speak to how the cuts of TCBs (50s or 60s) compare to SC's 47 cut (Sugar Mountain, perhaps?).

I've got a pair of Okis in a size 36, and, while I love them, I could use something a little trimmer in the hips and rear. From my hips down, I'd probably be fine with SCs in a size 34, but my beer gut won't have it. I love the higher rise and the fuller leg, and so I'm kind of thinking that a pair of 60s (in a size 35--is this a real thing) might do the trick. I'd really appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, and congrats to those of you in the contest; it's really been something to watch. Cheers.

Anybody know of a store that sells Sugarcanes in Seattle?

I'm heading into town for a business trip next week and would love to see in person how the fit of my Okis compares to some 47s.

Anybody out there making progress with a pair of the Cone Mills Natural Indigo? I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about them. Aside from the lighter shade of blue, how's the denim? 16oz strikes me as rather heavy for such a vintage color.

Lots of nice Black Marias coming out of this contest already. Kudos! 

Here's a handful of shots of my non-contest pair. About 27months old. Washed probably 15-16 times. One hand-darn crotch repair and a recent set of admittedly unconventional patches to cover up tearing cuffs.

Not much for me to say about belts. I've had a simple Corter Leather belt for 5 or so years. It does the job. 

My dumb observation of the day concerns t-shirts. I've been wearing my SC Okis quite regularly over the last couple weeks, and wouldn't you know it, all of my better quality t-shirts that have a more vintage cut to them, look great with a proper higher waisted repro cut. This is especially true of my 3sixteen indigo pocket tees, which are so horrendously boxy and short that I barely ever wear them.   

 

 

EDIT: @Milehigh The puckering/ roping around the pockets look really great. I never expected that from their jeans but man those are looking good.

 

I agree: I wouldn't have expected that to happen either, especially since they're sanforized and don't shrink hardly at all. I've washed them about 10 times, and while the chainstitched hem hasn't amounted to much real roping, the pockets get better and better.

Your SBGs look gnarly. Nicely faded black denim isn't appreciated enough.

Freshly washed and ready to send to Steven @ Railcar to get the cuffs fixed up. I finally managed a photo that accurately captures the color and texture of the denim, along with some of the subtle puckering at the tops of the rear pockets. 

Washed my Okis for the first time yesterday. Probably 45 or so wears and not much evolution to show just yet.

Though there's plenty of existing documentation of their various details, when I searched the thread I only found a couple mentions (and no pics) of the fact that the pocket bag fabric is actually selvage. So, here are a couple pics for the archive. Apologies for the lint; they are pockets after all. Cheers.

Random update inspired by the double denim thread. My DWC Railcars plus an old RGT grey caste work shirt on the bus heading home after a few post-work pints. Cheers.

^nice! How often are you washing these karanimal? I ask because I perhaps foolishly associate the pioneer denim with producing those hyper-exaggerated contrast fades, which I don't really like much. Yours are much more moderate without going full "wash/dry every week" crinkly vintage fade. Good stuff.

^^doogan, that's pretty much my ideal fit. I envy you: my SC Okis are just a bit baggier than that in the top block (hips/seat) and so I'm always worried they're a shade too sloppy, and everything else I've got is a shade too slim.  

Does the 1101 share the same silhouette with another Warehouse model? 1000 or 1001 perhaps?

I'd say I get about 20 wears per month and have kept that steady since the beginning of the contest. 30 amnesty wear beforehand puts me at about 200-210 wears so far. I'm lucky enough to wear them to work (teaching at a university). If stay presentable until the term ends at the beginning of June, then I can keep wearing them just as often right through the summer. Come September they'll probably not be so classroom-worthy, which will drop wears down to about 3-4 days a week.

So, I can probably get into the low end of that 470-500 range setterman has targeted. But then again, the jeans will probably have more say over that than I do. 

If it helps, I just double-checked my measurements and found the Blue Owl size chart to be accurate.

@MileHigh how did you size on the jacket?

I took a 42, which happens to be what I wear in a suit. While it's a touch narrow in the shoulders and the armholes are higher than I'm used to, it's not slim fit/tapered through the body, which I really appreciate. I'll try to get some fit pics in the next couple of days. 

Also, I think everybody's right; I'm going to hold off on waxing.

Cone Mill's White Oak Plant released a USA grown & woven natural indigo recently: https://www.conedenim.com/natural-indigo/

I know Leftfield (which is admittedly not Warehouse or SDA) is using it and only charging 240USD. So, is it the hand-dying process or something else that makes the MIJ natural indigo denim so expensive? Just curious. 

Yup. Now that I see what you're referring to, I'm totally with you and recall have similar thoughts about the rivets' placement. I'm less concerned with the fact that it's the same rivets front & back, but I take your point about wear-through. As you're suggesting, my SCs, for instance, are setup with entirely different hardware in the rear and placed squarely between the double row stitch at the top of the pocket.

Here's the SDA chore coat I snagged on sale from BlueOwl. The 19oz duck canvas is extremely rigid, but I figure in about a month that will change. Even though there's plenty of room in the sleeves, the armholes are a bit higher and narrower than I'd prefer, and combine with the stiffness of the canvas make layering underneath a bit uncomfortable so far. 

I like the look of this pocket, but it's almost entirely useless for my purposes (no pocket watch!)

My favorite detail is the "hidden" repro union garment label:

One question remains: to wax or not to wax?

Got any pics of these rivets, givemefive? I haven't bought any new denim from LF in a couple years, so I'm curious if they've changed the design or if it's a construction issue?

Here's an update on my Railcar x021s. 9 washes to date. Visually they haven't evolved much in the last month or two, and so it feels like they've reached a bit of a plateau. However, some minor crotch maintenance has been needed, and I'll probably send them to Railcar to get the cuffs reinforced in the next month. I still wish the back rise were a bit higher, and the roping isn't what I'd hoped it would be.

Compared to the Wrangler-esque "blueberry" hues of the first few pics, this last one is pretty accurate in terms color and texture:

^Nice work, chicote! 

I usually pull the small patch and install a larger one, but my handwork is never as accomplished as what you've done there. 

While snagging an SDA chore coat on sale from Blue Owl (out of Seattle), which I'll post once it arrives tomorrow, I noticed that they also have SD-103s on sale for 185 USD in just about every size. 

http://www.blueowl.us/collections/studio-dartisan/products/studio-dartisan-tight-straight-15oz-unsanforized-raw-selvedge-denim-sd-103?variant=8322988609

I'm going to follow Maynard's lead, grab a new insole (Dr. Scholl's or something else simple and cheap) and see how things fare.  

Anybody out there able to comment on the relative quality of the Made in USA PF Flyers as compared to the cheap ones? I've got a pair of the cheap Center-Hi that looks good, but hasn't held up well at all. The outside is fine, but the insole/footbed wore out and practically disintegrated under my heels in just a few months. Thanks.

After a couple years of a weak yen, and denim prices ranging from $120 to $250 direct from Japan, are the days of people willing to pay $300+ for jeans over with?  I know $240 is about my cut off.  

I've started to wonder about this as it pertains to some of the established quality USA brands (Leftfield, Railcar, 3sixteen, Rogue Territory). These brands are increasingly adding more $240-280 offerings to their lineups. I have been buying Leftfield for a few years and bought/wear a pair of Railcars for the DWC (all under $230), but the reduced MIJ prices enabled me to finally buy some SC Okis for $220. I realize that there are plenty of factors shaping why somebody will buy one pair of jeans over another, but I have to imagine the closing price gap between made in USA and MIJ is bound to make things harder on the USA brands. Just one example to consider: you can currently buy from Selfedge a pair of 3sixteen 17oz indigo jeans for $265 or a pair of IronHeart 17oz. natural indigo for $295.