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1 hour ago, johngalt said:

Does the shirt use sewn buttons then? I've tried applying DWN on my Polytope with success; though I just feels silly. I'm sure you apply down to that shirt as well. If you're looking for a Polytope, let me know I can probably ask someone to get one for you. 

It was my understanding that AV just didn't like the whole exposed seam thing. A lot of my Lulu and Reigning Champ gear have flat locked seams and I just don't see the visual appeal nor is it too comfortable. 

Thanks man I really appreciate it. I don't get why they're so cryptic on their website. I just want to see more products. No comment on the mesh tank.

Interesting. I assume they have two creative teams then? I guess my real question is, is the gear minimal or more techy?

lol dammit i got back and forgot to take pics -_-. the gear doesnt look really techy honestly, pretty minimal. i'd say the most visually interesting part of the buttonup (called the Sullivan shirt, apparently) is the bonded chest pocket. I mainly like the shirt for its lack of visual detail if that makes sense (hidden placket, bonded edges etc). And yeah I might be interested in the polytope but IIRC you said the color is more blue than it is white?

I get what you mean about the exposed flatlock seams, they did make for some interesting tonal patterning/lines on the merino tees. My issue with the veilance knit stuff is when you layer a bunch of it you can feel it on your traps/shoulderblades.

As for the price, the mesh tank was freakin $88 lol. And the shirt was $140. Have you checked out both instagrams?

lol, funny you should ask, I went today and I think I'm gonna end up buying some stuff. They have a cool dress shirt that's cotton/nylon/elastane (no dwr unfortunately), with a hidden placket, bemis bonded chest pocket and hem. if it had prym snaps, a little more substantial feel, and DWR it'd be a polytope killer. $140 and comes in XS. theres merino tees in pretty cool colors with actual flatlock seams (veilance doesnt even do this). will go back tomorrow and try to get pics/prices. they also have a cropped womens nylon/elastane mesh tank top.. that im gonna get.. lol

lab stuff is definitely a step up from mainline lululemon. ive heard good things about their pants. i think the designs for NYC are going to be different than the designs in YVR though, and they change pretty often it seems.

On 2/20/2018 at 7:45 PM, johngalt said:

I love nerdy SuFU gets. So far the dead giveaway in most products are the tags and tag positioning.

Terratex Voronoi owners, does this look fishy to you? The grey tag on mine are sew closer to the waist and do not have the black laminate behind. Also the tag looks a little off. 

yeah, looks sus. grey tag is weird, material looks weird, hangtag looks wrong, cord to attach hang tag looks wrong. i might be wrong but i think the color is dark navy not just navy

also, here is an interview w/ taka. so far the rumors we know r conroys back for ss19 onwards, the'yre working on shoes (boots to start, not leather), and expanding the bag lineup, so probably different nomin sizes/styles

http://gearpatrol.com/2018/02/22/arc-teryx-veilance-taka-kasuga-interview/

lmao replied to something from like 10 pages ago, new sufu is buggy sorry

how would you rate the weatherproofness of the bamba 2s? is it the same sort of mesh paneling throughout, or a more sealed construction this time?

also those white lows look really cool, kinda regret copping the speedcross 4s lol

1 hour ago, TooAwesome said:

How can you guys tell?  The only thing I can see is maybe that the cuff elastic is black instead of blue?  Could the colour difference be because it is from an older season?

cuff elastic is contrasting instead of tonal, giant sloppy stitches on the inside of the cuff instead of the usual veilance microseam work, inside doesn't look like proper goretex cknit (it's more white instead of the smooth silvery look), seam taping looks bad/i dont see the cool circular reinforcements where seamtape meets, interior stretch pocket is black with blue zipper instead of tonal/white, i dont think the hood of the ebay one has the black suede-esque material where it sits on the neck, the font on the hangtags are bad, the hangtag itself is attached with plastic instead of the stiff black cord thing, there's an extra white tag on the hangtags, the correct color is "Mid Navy" not "Blue" as shown on the tag, etc.

31 minutes ago, junkie_dolphin said:

It's not the new Graph—I've seen the new Graph in person, and it's very visibly made of merino. It also doesn't look anything like this. This looks like some sort of windbreaker material—look at those cuffs. It's more like a Nemis. Plus there's the matter of the tag, which is in the style of mainline, not Veilance. The zippers are all wrong. The images up top don't match with the actual product photos. I could go on...

oh haha yeah the actual garment in the listing is totally fake, i meant the stock photo it's referencing. but yea i only saw the workbook in passing so i'm probably wrong. i just remember the new graph design does look more 'mainline' if that makes any sense since it gets rid of the current stand collar on the graph

1 hour ago, johngalt said:

Does anyone know if this is a just fake mock-up or will this be an AV jacket

looks like fw18 graph cardi

7 hours ago, junkie_dolphin said:

Some thought on this season:

The Field LT feels like a completely different jacket compared to the previous version. It waaaay slimmer, no drawcord, etc... but even the shoulder feels different to me. Just sad it’s not in green.

The Partition LT is much improved from the previous version. The old one was very conservatively cut—like an old British raincoat. Unless you’re Alec Guinness or Gary Oldman I’ll think you’ll like the newer version more. I’m looking forward to the Partition AR in the fall—it’ll be Gore-Tex Pro rather than c-knit.

Fuck the hype. C-knit pants were never a good idea. The Convex LT pants are the stars of this season, pants-wise, in my opinion. Comfy as hell, really light and stretchy, and the pockets are really nice. Would go well with the Blazer LT.

The Dyadic Comp Hoody is patterned really strangely. The shoulder almost seems constructed to make bringing your arms forward uncomfortable—something about the yoke. Plus the body is really wide compared to the Graph, the fabric is thinner and lighter, but for some reason they still put zip pockets on the front, so the whole thing ends up hanging a little bulky and boxy. Not a fan, even though I was most hyped for this one.

kinda making me want a field LT or partition LT but i really dont need any more shells lol

tbh, sequent pants are kinda whatever. maybe if you can get a good fit it's worth it? zippered flapped hand pockets arent the most comfortable either, but I get that they're the most waterproof construction

can you compare the fit of convex LT to voronoi in terratex?

just tried the dyadic comp hoody actually. the black one has like.. a beige merino interior. I don't know if it's the shoulder articulation that makes bringing up the arms weird, but when I bend my elbows and raise them to shoulder height (think like a front squat with a barbell), its tight/pulls on the tips of my elbows. really weird. the body doesn't feel wide compared to the graph to me, maybe the cardigan, but not the sweater. i also dont feel the dyadic series is that light. for some reason they feel pretty heavy actually. i dont find it hangs bulky or boxy though. i was most hype for this but it's kinda just whatever. it is very very similar to my slocan hoody from mainline but heavier lol

Yeah go TTS. I mainly use it to layer under something roomy with a smooth interior like my Node Down. Worn alone it's fine since it's more of an overshirt cut. The most restricted part of the cut is probably the chest. But I only experience that if I'm opening my chest wide like when sliding my arm through a jacket, the zero snaps pop open lol.

That said I don't like it the best as an outer layer because no hand pockets when it's chilly and I worry about pilling the wool if I wear a bag.

should be the same

4 hours ago, Inkinsurgent said:

I was about to post that yesterday. The last few iterations of the AV website have grown increasingly dull and uninspired. The current one just looks plain bad. 

personally I really like the visuals, I think showing real video of the clothes styled on a model in motion (properly lit and not hiding in the shadows, mind you) is valuable for products like this. i also appreciate seeing a new model instead of the wax statue guy. however, i agree that the actual placement/layout of the assets on the site is questionable and the copy on the brand page could be simplified and not.. all uppercase.. for some reason

3 hours ago, Dolphinski said:

Gotta say, this is not a flattering look on the Dyadic pant shot.

i'd rec sizing up on these to get that comfy fit. that super slim fit is a little strange

2 hours ago, AnomalousTautology said:

Has anyone got a pair of Dyadic pants yet? What do you think of them?

I want to like them, but I can't shake that they are more or less a pair of very expensive sweatpants.

they are more or less an expensive pair of sweatpants

i brought them for a business trip, they're very comfy next to skin. psychologically it makes me feel like they arent that durable but i mean, it probably is, since it's terratex on the lap and seat.

it's easy to admire the pant when you're not wearing them. the composite construction is awesome, how it can feel comfy next to skin but strong on the outside. the discreet zippered cargo pockets with internal organization, the adjustable waist, the bemis bonded cuff.. also the inseam fits me well.

i sized up to 29 and it's perfect for me, since they seem to be cut pretty slim. actually, i sized up and the thigh is even a little snug. depends on the look you want I guess, kinda like the field pant maybe. here are some pics. i cuffed these once, inwards, and have the waist cinched fully.

Norvan LDs are cooler imo

https://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/arcteryx/norvan-ld-rubber-trimmed-mesh-running-sneakers/999993#

16 hours ago, Yoshiii said:

aw man this one actually looks like it could be water resistant enough for rain unlike the current bamba 2s

oh nice, it looks like barney's has an exclusive colorway (designated by XO) with a maroon liner and black shell sold together

4 hours ago, Inkinsurgent said:

field lt in stone is peak veilance. would've loved the field shirt in that colorway instead of in ash.

weird, it looks so much lighter on haven's site. almost like mineral. it's still lighter than ash but its not a cool as mineral from what i remember. i think the lighting being so bad at the liberty fairs venue is messing w/ my expectation of the color

the ash here looks closer to soot

3 hours ago, Nebulae said:

What about dyadic pants colorways?

black and ash. i like ash more because you can really see the comp construction. i got the ash ones on the way and some travel coming up. i just hope theyre durable lol

black, khaki, dark navy

blue/black, or as veilance calls it, just Black

To add to this…

My Peat Graph sweater is more desaturated and greycast. IIRC the Peat Partition AR was like.. definitely brown. lol

Ash is pretty consistently mid-grey with a slight purplecast on my Nemis, Field OS, and Graph Cardigan.

Soot on the Frame tee is definitely deep medium grey, but on the Indisce pant it's lighter and greener. On my monitor coat Soot looks more purple/grey to me similar to the ash but darker

END is doing an additional 15% off that stacks with their sale pricing, lots of descente allterrain, veilance, etc.

someone get this it's so nice

https://www.endclothing.com/us/descente-allterrain-perforated-insulation-shirt-dia4770u-bk.html#

https://sdrtraveller.com/products/tote?variant=194850390030

2 hours ago, 03lab said:

Why did you size up, are they not tts? Or for a looser fit?

they're probably TTS/roomy. depending on the fabric veilance 28 could be loose on me anyway, i dont really have a choice. the smallest size they make now is 29, but this pant and dyadic comp have no beltloops so instead there's a waist and hem adjustor using riri zero snaps similar to how the apparat cuff works. that said, the sequent when fully cinched at the waist still didnt bring it down enough unfortunately.

yeah, it's already up on END for example

https://www.endclothing.com/us/arc-teryx-veilance-isogon-jacket-20962-kh.html

https://www.endclothing.com/us/arc-teryx-veilance-isogon-jacket-20962-bk.html

should retail 500 USD i think. black/ash/khaki. comes in the new 50/50 cotton/cordura nylon instead of 70/30 like before