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some fit pics of the mule skinner jacket. Really digging the jacket! Especially love the lining, it has an amazing texture to it.

 

Dig the fit - how did you size the jacket?

Also just a fun weird video to watch. I'm not ashamed to admit I aspire to Goldblums old man steez.

[puts on flight jacket nerd hat] That A-2 is based off a Roughwear contract from the war. [takes flight jacket nerd hat off]

@kcrunner. Did you size up 1 for the jacket?

I did not.  If it helps, I have the RgT Supply Jacket in the same size.  The RgT is 20.5 chest and the 3sixteen is 19.5-20ish.  It's a little snug in the chest but I think it will stretch out.  The biggest difference is the slimness of the arms.  T-shirts are fine and my 9.5oz think oxford shirt have no trouble layering under it.  I don't think I could wear a thick sweater/hoodie with it.  If you're planning on doing much layering you should probably size up.  

+1 on the slim arms. I haven't tried shoehorning a hoodie under it, and don't expect it would fit. But oxfords work well.

I also have the supply jacket, and I did have to size up the Type 3S, though, so, measure twice, buy once, I guess.

Copped the Type 3S at Self Edge on Saturday, and have been wearing it ever since. It's been a long time since I've broken in a raw denim jacket, it's analagous to breaking in a new leather jacket. But the fit is great and once the denim loosens up, it will wear beautifully. I have the jeans in the same fabric; looking foward to the fades as it ages.

Trucker jacket is up for sale at Snake Oil Provisions: http://www.snakeoilprovisions.com/collections/latest-arrivals/products/3sixteen-shadow-selvedge-denim-trucker-jacket

Hopefully they hit other stores soon!

Definitely hourly, not at all sure what the rate is, however. My friend who got work done by Ben did not tell me what he paid.

Yo I actually live near SF (Oakland) and was wondering if anyone knew a good tattoo place that does excellent line work? (like precise geometric stuff)

Ben Volt does very good geometric stuff: http://www.benvolttattoo.com/

^ Oh, there are also these new boots from Woolrich, which I've never seen in person but which I think look pretty good for a classic light workboot:

 

I don't know for sure, but suspect they are made by Thorogood.  Currently selling for $300:

 

http://www.woolrich.com/woolrich/details/men-s-yankee-buck-boot/_/R-23019?_=1413916875369

 

They're $249 through Huckberry: https://huckberry.com/store/woolrich-footwear/category/p/19535-yankee

 

I had a great experience with my Chippewa engineer boots (really service boots), bought on sale for $65!  There is a pic of them here from a few weeks back, with 13 years of wear on them.  They fit my wide feet well (Munson last), and looked better and better as the years went on.  They were before LL Bean started offering the Chippewa Katahdin boot, but I think that will be the same build as these were.  Now going for maybe $260 or so, sometimes on sale I think.

 

If Red Wing Iron Rangers fit you (they are oddly narrow and long) they are great looking boots, and seem to hold up well.  Just around $300 but often on sale.  Zappos has free shipping and free returns if you are in the US.  They have no arch support, so may need an insole if that matters to you.

I second the Red Wing Iron Rangers - and try calling the factory store, to see if they have available seconds. I did that in 2009, got a pair of the roughout versions (I believe they call it Hawthorne) for $80. There were three circular dark marks on the leather, spots, each about the size of a pencil eraser, but you can't even see them now. Construction was in all other respects top notch, just those marks on the leather. And they actually fit me better than my Gentleman Traveller's by Red Wing.

Meant to add this a bit ago, but I've been packing to move and so all sufu activity has been thoroughly curtailed. Here's a little write up of my Stealth Stantons I purchased last winter.

http://elitistforthemasses.blogspot.com/2014/10/shadows-on-wall-rogue-territory-stealth.html

I love them.

I think tech/marketing, etc, are a lovely foundation to build a sense of ennui needed to finally make you say "fuck it" and try doing what you actually love.

Tech bros are everywhere out here. Of course, as someone who works in content marketing, I am nominally a tech bro. Of course, I view my working in marketing much like being a tradesman. It's what I have experience in, so I have a job in it. But I don't believe digital marketing is saving the planet like many of the over fed, over paid children do here in the space.

tmadd, this echo's my sentiments as well. But I've always explained it (to myself) as certain brands create versions of items (jeans, shoes, shirts, boots, etc) that are my platonic ideal, and it's usually NOT related 100% to cost of the item, though often there is some interrelation to quality and price.

Nice jeans! I dig them, but Stantons are already slim on me, so I think SK's will always be an admire from afar deal for me.

Long term aftercare advice:

Do y'all continue to moisture your tattoos daily? 

 

Thx!

I do. I use moisturizer with SPF15. I don't go outside that much, I figure I paid enough to get them, I might as well protect them. I have a lot of color in mine, and fine linework, I don't want it to blur or fade, so to the extent I can maintain them, I do.

Others opinions may vary.

In a way, I feel like there is an argument that we do still treat clothes as tools, but that is and can mean has broadened over time.  Simply put, our clothes are tools that amongst other things, help us to communicate, or attempt to convey the image which is our idealised selves.  If you're willing to accept that broad definition as "used like tools" then we certainly do treat clothes like tools.  I tend to look at my clothes as tools, but perhaps you would argue that's because I fancy myself so genuine and authentic in my interest in clothes that I am only seeking to use them as tools.  Of course, I fully acknowledge that part of my use of clothing as tools entails the sales of those very same garments, in a retail setting.  However, I also continue to experiment a good deal with different articles of clothing, and ways of wearing it in the service of having it be purely more functional.

 

My interpretation of Sugar Mountain's "regional aesthetics" (and correct me if I'm wrong) has more to do with dressing in your own unique, and heterogenous style, but not in a way that runs perpendicular to your life and circumstances.  If your idealised self is best conveyed through the laid back but hyper-masculine and functional aesthetics of NW Lumberjacks, but you find yourself in Southern California, it may be worth remembering that that aesthetic came from a reaction to the climate, and those same guys would be in a henley or a t-shirt if they were in LA.  That's not to say there's anything wrong with layering up in flannel, if it's comfortable for you, or if you don't mind the lack of comfort…but in terms of what you're communicating to the outside world, you are missing the nonchalant aspect of that style of dress which has made it so cool in the past.

 

You would still have your metalhead and your business man, but you'd hope that both of them are dressed appropriately on a personal scale, and also in response to their circumstances at a particular time and place.  It's hard to look cool when you're uncomfortable.  And I guess that's the whole thing I'm trying to get at in these three paragraphs: One thing that is sometimes dissonant in this attempt we all make to convey our idealised selves via our clothing choices is that clothing of any type always looks better when it's doing things for the people wearing it…by providing actual utility by having pockets the right places, or being of the appropriate weight and breathability for the weather that day, or simply by fitting the person in a flattering, comfortable manner.  No garments are cool enough, or embedded with enough identity shaping information to change the fact that you are the uncomfortable sweaty dude, wearing something a size too small.  

 

 

 

Thanks for mentioning the answer key to not having to think about any of this stuff.  Of course my interests in most clothing have nothing to do with American made stuff of any ilk…I am in love with a handful of Japanese brands, none of whom are selling the country of manufacture before the actual quality of the product.  If the Japanese brands claim any authenticity, it has to do with the accuracy of their reproductions, but, for obvious reasons, they don't get to lean on American sentimentality in the same way. 

I've been thinking about this a lot lately - within any of us nutty enough to obsess over these details there are many factors at work, sometimes antagonistically.

1) heritage to mean history - i.e. a company has been around a long time, and people beyond the users of their garments as tools are hip to it. This happens to music all the time.

2) heritage as fashion - people who like the looks and have none of the need a garment provides.

Somewhere in between is the knowledge that to some extent all clothing is costume - a uniform that expresses who you think you are to the world. You may dress in American heritage because to you it's important to source clothing that is made in the US (if you are American), you may want to signify that you don't follow fast fashion, because heritage clothing is expensive. Or you may dress like a lumberjack because you work in a forest cutting down trees.

Where I personally draw the line is trying to sepearate the companies who are making a cash grab from the companies that have a real love for the crafting of items, be they boots, jeans, jackets etc. Once I've pruned that list down to my (totally subjective) satisfaction, then I can apply other criteria (where it's from, history, etc).

Guys! I need som help. What the tipping etiquette like in the us?

I like to tip about 20% - I like to reward a good job, and also, Hopefully help guarantee good work from the same artist in the future.

Beating a dead two-horse patch.

Hi - apologies if I missed it, but any update as to release date for the Black Type II jacket?

Cellarmaker has been getting a lot of love lately, and I've only been once, but, imho, it's not impressive. All of their beers had a rotten/rank quality, which I've had in some wild yeast brewed beers, but they were all a bit like mouldy socks. Your milage may vary though. If you are really in to beer, I'd check out Mikkeller Beer Bar.

For all of the hype if you want Flour and Water-ish food, I prefer Beretta. Food comes out lightning quick and is always good. Pizzas are good to (for the type that they are).

Recently got a pair of ST-220x's from SELA. Liking them a lot so far. Went a bit looser with them for a more relaxed fit.

 

 

 

Looks great, but, that's a bit looser? How did you size them compared to your usual?

Kept the oven temp at around 225. When internal temp of the meat hit 150 I wrapped it in foil and put about 1/3 a cup of the mop in there. Pulled it at 200 and ended up hitting a couple degrees higher. I can't eat it, but my girlfriend said it was too spicy and I have a feeling I should throw down for some more expensive meat next time.

MOP?

How low did you set the temperature in the oven?