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Like Maynard is alluding to, the problem I have with the whole thing isn't where the boots are actually made. It's the lack of transparency and outright deceit of their customers. It would be one thing if they didn't actively market and lean on the fact that their products are MiUSA, but for years it's a selling point and what they've always pushed about what makes their product "better". Oakstreet has posted a response and it's a longwinded nothing burger, which to me just further confirms that something is going on: reddit link And just to really drive it home, on 8/6 Oakstreet filed a claim with the USPTO to cancel Viberg's patent of the service boot: USPTO link I'm no lawyer and I know nothing about patent / trademark law, but the timing of the filing really makes you think. -
By Maynard Friedman · Posted
Would you feel slightly deceived if you discovered your Mexican huaraches were made in Bangladesh, your Persian rug in Botswana, your Colombian congas in China? It doesn’t make them lesser products but displays a lack of transparency and possibly authenticity. You’re right that modern production supply chains are complex but some consumers simply want to have a bit more information about what they’re buying, particularly if they believe they’re paying a premium and that includes higher cost labour (with potentially better working conditions) to justify that price. Unfortunately, laws/rules around the provenance of goods seem to enable a broad interpretation and allow companies to deliberately confuse/mislead their customers. -
l-j11 large great shape for its age, some signs of wear. Cool trades are welcome – LP stuff, Stotz stuff, GTB stuff, more formal pieces, or items of similar rarity/value. I am an L/XL in Tops and pants, depending on cut. I’m not ready to let it go unless it’s a truly top-tier offer. located in Germany for the sake of BIN price 3k€ -
I feel these days more often than not the whole “made in X country” thing is either a xenophobic dog whistle made in bad faith, or a “good faith” desire to reshore industrial manufacturing in societies that have now developed post-industrial economies and are probably .. I mean definitely .. never going back. the problem with the latter argument is that offshoring is a natural result of globalized neoliberalism and the free trade agreements that come with it. It’s just a reality that practically all manufacturing these days requires materials & labor from many countries often on opposite sides of the globe. I’m sure you all have seen those videos on how a single t-shirt takes materials from like a half dozen countries and travels twice around the world before it’s stocked in some mall in Nebraska for $8.99 - or if not that maybe the video from when the U.S.’ steel tariffs were first announced showing the impact that would have on the price of “U.S. Made” Ford pickup trucks (they went up many many thousands of dollars… because most of the truck’s parts come from overseas). And all the executives at Ford were wringing their hands saying it would take decades to shift their manufacturing back to the U.S., but still somehow making the claim their vehicles are made here. That is to say, I’m not sure why any one shoemaker that claims their stuff is made in the U.S. is getting flak more than any other one for that not actually being the case. I love my Mexican huaraches, Colombian congas and Iranian rug because they’re made by amazing and talented craftspeople, not because they have some magical quality derived from their country of origin. I wish we could evolve this whole conversation to have an appreciation for the many many hands and cultures that come together to make everything in the modern world. It’s really amazing when you think about it! Instead we pretend that 3/4 of the global supply chain doesn’t exist and that we’re too good for goods made, even in part, in less developed countries… and we do so surrounded by things made in those very countries!!
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