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Yeah, they run fairly small for tops. 40 or 42 seems to be the biggest size they had for most items.

We visited The Flat Head store in Harajuku (Jinguemae) in Tokyo a couple of weeks ago. I got a tee and a black/yellow checked flannel work shirt. The store clerk was incredibly friendly and enthusiastic and helped me with sizing. Highly recommend that shop any time you're in the area.

That's more or less exactly how mine fit me pre-wash. Those look spot-on!

Mine started off feeling very tight in the top block, but the hips and upper thigh do stretch a good amount, just not as quickly as the 13.7oz denim version. I wear a size 32 and after a year of wearing and washing, the leg opening measures closer to 7.6.

Yeah, I found this too wearing them after the first wash, but once they stretched a softened up a bit after maybe a week of wear, that went away.

With a zippo in my coin pocket, I literally can't even fit my hand in the front right pocket of my 3009s 🤣 That said, the pocket bags themselves are nicer than most other pairs in my closet.

The Denime 224 cut is great. I’ve been wearing mine quite a bit. The rise is notably lower than the 220a, but still in mid territory.

These are the details we're here for. I'm looking at my OA WW2 pair. The coin pocket and the pocket-bag denim are both the same, perpendicular to the legs, as well. Now I want to go through the rest of my closet to look for this.

The first day will be from about 4pm-1:30am, and the way back will be 6am until 4:30pm. I think that gives a nice window to try things that may only be open earlier in the day and also some restaurants/bars that open later. Thanks again for the recs!

I wore the 224 to band practice last night, and the outsides of both of my hands were deep blue. Those things shed dye like crazy.

Thanks @Geeman @reallypeacedoff and @tooth! I noticed that one area has almost every shop I'd wanna visit aside from Bears or Hinoya, neither of which is particularly far. I'm actually really excited for M'ARIJUAN as well, I don't own enough SDA pieces.

Booked flights for a trip to SE Asia, but I have a 10 hour layover in Tokyo on the way there and an 8 hour layover on the way back. Flat Head store in Shibuya is one of the first on my list. Seems like the shop has nothing but great reviews.

True. PBJ 019 comes to mind. My waist size in those fit my legs like skinny jeans circa 2005 🤣

Mine shrunk to 29.5" in the waist. S&S put 29.9" as their post-wash, so I think that's pretty spot on for the most part.

After wearing these out all day today, I take it back and think these are spot on. The waist and hips were very snug initially but they’ve already stretched to be comfortable. The rise could be slightly higher on these for me, but that’s fine. 33 would have given a more classic, wider fit which I was almost expecting, but since these have zero taper whatsoever, they accomplish that in the leg opening. Edit: And yeah, my size for most Japanese brands is 31 or 32, very occasionally a 30 (as I’ve learned with newer Denime). I’m a 32 with Warehouse 800xx or 31 in 1001xx, 31 for all TCB cuts I own (I would be 32 for their 50s), and 31 in most FC cuts.

OA03 cut is very nice. Size 32. 33 would have also fit, but I'm liking the fit a lot. Gave them a 1-hour soak in the hottest water my bathtub provides, and then a warm machine wash on gentle with no detergent. They shrank to slightly below S&S's predicted measurements, so I'm confident they are fully shrunk at this point. Denim is really, really nice. I don't have anything similar to it in feel or appearance.

Size 32 for 711, I don’t have a pair of 714. Denime 221 is size 31.

My 711 (same denim as 714) didn’t shrink at all after a warm wash/machine dry. They do stretch a bit, so you are probably fine.

The newer slim 50s are in my main rotation, truly a great cut. They are roomier in the top block than most cuts labeled “relaxed taper”, though, so the name isn’t entirely accurate lol

It was my 220 that didn’t shrink as much, they ended up about half an inch above tag size. The 221 shrank to exactly tag size, so it’s negligibly the same. @Geeman thigh on 224 for size 30 is just under 12”/30cm after shrinking, hem at 7.5”/19.5cm.

Mine shrunk tag size (30”) in the waist, and are at 32.5” in length, so pretty close to tag size there as well.

@obama np! My 220a and 221 are both w31. And yeah, the waist of the 220a didn't shrink quite as much as the 221 in the same size. The denim for the 224 is different from both. Really thick twill lines and visually slubbier after the first wash (warm machine wash on gentle, no detergent).

Interesting, I’ve put my 710 and 711 through the dryer and nothing like that @vexed_wear. Maybe the heat was really high?

Actually, compared to the Kyoto’s, the 224 have a slightly higher rise and are a little slimmer. The Kyoto’s have also been through the dryer, so they have shrunk more and I have a feeling these 224’s could shrink a little more in the waist.

Can confirm that the waist measurement for lot 224 matches the size charts, size 30 was 81cm before wash, shrunk to about 77cm after a warm machine wash and air dry. Thighs are about 30cm measured at the crotch seam post-wash. Really nice fit, glad I took a size down from my 220a and 221. I’ll post photos soon! My only reference for the fit of these is my Kyotos which are a size 32 but fit similarly.