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I think it’s a case of people having no idea around what they’re buying and no idea why a brand has made the decisions they have made… not only with a paper patch, but across the board: patterning, hardware, thread weights / colors, and let’s not forget the denim itself and the choices / decisions that went into creating said denim… Also, that article is from 2018. I wonder if the guy who wrote the review, and the people who posted comments, have tried any other brands between now and then and how / if their complaints / preferences in denim have changed.

Looks like they have a lot of life left in them.

I wear a 32 in WH and 31 in FC

@unionmade not sure what size you are, but I have a pair of Freewheelers 601RB that I’ve been meaning to sell (too small for me). Size 31, unhemmed. Probably 5 wears. If any one is interested I can provide full measurements / pics. Sold.

Don’t do it.

Regular straight fit

I wore various incarnations (different denims) of the 1108s for many years (2010-2015 or so) and I can say the 220 are more generous in all dimensions and much more comfortable, IMO… especially as I get older.

Just noticed that Barnstormer has the 1946 ‘Super Denim Collectible’ back in stock… some sizes sold out. Makes me wonder / think other shops should / will be getting a restock shortly(?).

220A. Started wearing these regularly this past July or August. 4 machine washes. Really like these - denim, details, etc. Holding up pretty well overall, but did have to perform a crotch repair (broken threads) about a week ago (ie: ~6 months into regular wear).

Interesting… I got 1.5” shrink in the rear rise. Tag 34. Measurements in inches. Waist: 17 / 15.5 Front rise: 12.5 / 11.5 Back rise: 16 /14.5 Thigh: 12 / 11 Hem: 9.5 / 8.75 Inseam: 36 / 33 These S0A03XX are my 4th pair of OOE and the first time I feel like I bought the size that actually fits. In the past I’ve gotten recommendations from the shops I bought them from, but they always ended up too small after initial wash. If anyone is interested, Barnstormer still has pairs available for their second delivery (not sure when they will actually be delivered). As previously mentioned, it seems like only S&S has crazy fast sellout… I preordered mine from Barnstormer back in the summer and spent about a week (maybe more) going back and forth as to whether I wanted them or not. This would not have been possible if I went through S&S as they seem to sell out in minutes.

I had a feeling… glad I could help out 😂

Just googled Lewis Leathers and came across these engineers. @Broark maybe this what you’re looking for? They’ve got your size!

@Double 0 Soul those SC 1946 for junky look quite nice… awesome texture. One thing that caught my eye is that the patch features an ‘S’ (ie: S1946) when I think the production restrictions were lifted by that point (as can be seen by use of coin pocket rivets). Was the ‘S’ still employed for a period of time afterwards? Was there a surplus of patches that had been stamped with an ‘S’ that were used vs tossing them? I’m sure this has been covered before…

@beautiful_FrEaK 1” inch down from the crotch. Just went back and looked at my post it and realized I used the front rise measurements for the thigh (thanks for the call out 👍) - updated original post… Looking forward to your measurements.

I washed my ‘Denim Collectibles 1946’ (received last week from Bears) and thought I’d provide some pre / post wash measurements and some thoughts (albeit quite plebeian). No photos as they can be found online and in this thread already… Tag size: 33 waist. waist: 16.75” / 16.25” front rise: 12.25” / 12” rear rise: 16” / 15.5” thigh: 12.5” / 12.25” length: 33” / 32.5” hem: 8.75” / 8.5” The denim is great. Deep indigo with a subtle grey weft. When they arrived they were very soft and pliable, after the initial wash they stiffened up a bit and have a somewhat rough hand, but I have a feeling that within a few wears they’ll drape very well and return to their softer state. There’s some nice unevenness within the denim and a bit of loom chatter that helps with the texture, but it is still fairly even. I really like the iron buttons and subtle oxidation that I have a feeling will continue to age nicely. The chainstich runoff is not as extreme as the MiUSA 46s, which I am happy about… the MiUSA seems over the top to me. The stitching is perfectly imperfect and I’m a big fan of the thread color. The rivets are nicely stamped and the nipple has that sharper feeling similar to FW, but not sharp enough to draw blood . Was thinking of getting these hemmed, but the original is too nice and already showing great tension. Personally, I tend toward repros more for the cut than historical accuracy, but with all of the research SC put into these I’m assuming they’re close to the original on which they’re based… would be great to get an expert opinion. In any case really, looking forward to getting these into rotation and seeing how they come along.

This feels relevant to the conversation around authenticity and finding your own voice. The Ezra Klein Show

Thanks @Jared_Lee 👍

@Jared_Lee how’s the ‘super smooth’ denim? I personally find their banner denim to be pretty smooth, so wondering how much the two denims differ.

Awesome. Order placed. Was checking Bears earlier this am, but didn’t see them on the site.

Did you all order through Toyo?

@Broark since we’re throwing every maker out there and you’re willing to wait, what about Kreosote… you’ll be psyched in 4 years.

One way to combat getting a boot you don’t like the look of is just to contact the shop you want to buy from and have them send pics of the pairs they have in your size. An extra step, but might save a lot of hassle (has for me).

Yep, my pairs all have a slight ‘bubble butt’ appearance… have always wondered why this seems to be more prevalent with FW, and kind of thought it was more a function of how they fit me vs potential construction / sewing method? Doesn’t bother me, but I also don’t have eyes back there. Also, as the denim settles the bubble becomes less apparent. @beautiful_FrEaK that’s a great fit, but I’d be debating between the 224 as well… the 224 look like they were made for you.

@Broark what about Skoob?

@Cold Summer love those boots and actually ordered the same this past fall, but returned due to construction / QC issues. Unfortunately you could see nails in the heel counter and the sole stitching was broken in places. I was pretty bummed to have received them with those defects, but luckily Freenote (where I ordered them from) has a great return policy (ie: money back vs store credit or some other form of ‘return’ allowance). I’m waiting to see if Lofgren does another Shinki engineer, or in a leather outside of CXL, but also debating on a pair of Attractions which I’ve tried on and are very nice, IMO. In any case, looking forward to seeing how your pair comes along; great pair of boots!