setterman

485 usd shipped via ems anywhere

Wow. I knew these jeans were more expensive, but didn't realize it was that much.    

If you're wanting some obvious contrast, I'd take the same approach as your canes and fullcounts. Give yourself 50 to 60 days of actual wear between the first few washes. You start washing them every 10 or 15 wears, I don't think you'll be happy with the results.

BiG shows same thigh in the 1108 and 1109.  1109 is a little narrower at the ankle, 1108 has a little more back rise.  

Looks like the 1101 will give 3/4" more room in the thigh in the same tagged size.  Another inch in the waist too.

So if (for example) he's a 32 in the 1109, he'd probably want a 31 in the 1101.   

They looks like they fit very well, but if you're wanting more room, the 1101 will have it.  Haven't compared measurements between the 1109 and 1101, but you may want to wear the 1101 one size smaller than the 1109 to keep them from being too big.    

From a thread on reddit:

"Dense fabric raw denim jeans with a selvedge finished seam should last you your whole life with infrequent use, or 6-10 years with daily use."

Do you guys think this is a joke? It's almost like satire

I don't think the quote's author has ever worn in a pair of raw denim.  6 to 10 years of daily wear?  Ha!  What planet is he living on?  

So they fit like my size 36 1001. I want a pair of 1000, and I'd get the size 36 in them too, expecting them to fit a little bigger through the leg than the 1001.  

Here's now the various standard models fit, I'd assume all in the same size on the same guy.

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90 cm pre or post wash?  34 if pre wash, 36 if post.  Do you have any other WH jeans, and if so what size and model?  

I do wonder if we've reached peak raw denim status (maybe even as much as 4-5 years ago)? 

We have, and I believe the peak was as much as five or six years ago.  

Future of selvedge denim, I've been saying the past couple years, it's going to be regular fitting jeans based on 50s and 60s 501s.  They're the classic, modern jean, with no extreme's in proportion or appearance, and capable of being worn with just about any piece of post WWII American casual clothing.  

I'll keep posting updates, mostly on the DWC site, but it's more than a little disappointing to see how flat the whole thing has fallen.

From the level of participation, only about a dozen people having posted updates over the four weight classes the past four months, I'd expect this will be the final DWC. I don't think there's the enthusiasm, interest, or attention span for two year contests anymore. 

Go with WH's measurements (which after converting from cm to inches, look nearly identical to BiG's for the 1000XX).   

Is there any reason why logging into the DWC website has to be such a pain in the ass?  

And does that site even matter any more?  Most threads there haven't been updated in months, and I'm pretty sure there are people posting here that don't have a thread at the DWC site.  

Their 1000 is the export model. Has the differences you mentioned from the Japanese model plus an offset belt loop.

The 1000XX is an older model.

What are you looking for, and which are you considering buying?

thx for ur input! are they similar in sizing as well (given that the cut should be the same)?

I haven't taken the time to convert the size 28 1000 on WH's page from cm to inches, so I can't say how close the two are. If you're interested in the 1000XX BiG has on sale, I'd go by their measurements. I've found them to be pretty accurate when it comes to WH.  

They should be very similar.  The one at BiG is from 2011, and should be a little different in details (like thread color).  If they fit, I'd buy 'em. I can't believe at $140, there'd be any sizes left.   

I like 'em. One of the ideas I've kicked around is picking another pair of 1001 up after the DWC, and washing them more regularly (every dozen wears rather than roughly every 50).

KB, you might want to consider the 1002.

 

just took delivery of the deck jacket yday. 130-ish euro. The lining is not alpaca of course, the zip is YKK rather than talon (was it talon on originals? think so) 

I've had two Buzz N-1s and if I remember correctly, one (now sold) had a Conmar and the current one has a Talon.  There would have been other brands of zippers available to manufactures at the end of the war, but I suspect those two brands were the most commonly used.      

thanks for the advice!!!   trust me, it gets cold here in toronto.  let's also not forget the wind chill factor!!!! 

Then definitely get the heavier one (it's worth the extra $$$).  Of the two, it's better suited for subfreezing temps, and can be worn comfortably above freezing (up to 40 or 45) with lighter weight shirts like a cotton button down.  

Buzz makes two versions, the standard version, and the heavier Demotex version (the latter is closer to the originals in weight).  Both the Large (standard) and 40 (Demotex) look like they should be (according to HPA's measurements) very similar to a vintage size 40.  I'd contact HPA, describe how the vintage jacket fit you, give them your measurements, and go by their sizing advice.  Not sure how cold it gets in Toronto in the winter, but for winter weather I experience around the Great Lakes, I prefer the heavier model N-1.   

I want to see what it's connected too. A 1001SXX with a cinch, making a proper late 30s reproduction, would be great.

Never gonna happen. 😞 If there isn't enough market for Kiya to offer a sugar cane type II in a size 46, never gonna happen with any of the other brands.

Glad you're able to find a price like that. Any work I've had done in the US was more expensive, and over a smaller area needing repair (but worth every penny).

props man for getting them to that state, but i think you need a new pair....

Yeah, proper repairs are going to cost more than a new pair of jeans.  I'd consider those pairs "done".  

Avoid cleaning if at all possible, and then dry clean only.  The shell would be okay, but I'd have concerns about the knits and lining going through the washing machine.   

like b_f mentioned, variation between batches.  IMO fit also plays a role.  Same denim in my 1001 and 1002, but the snugger fitting 1002 are showing some small signs of wear much much faster than my 1001s did.  I think the two big difference between the 1000XX and 1001 denims (other than weight), is that the 1001 holds onto more blue in the worn areas, while the 1000XX turns white easier.  In that way, IMO 1001 denim more closely resembles vintage Levis denim.