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are those 47's selvage?

can someone tell me where to get some?

http://www.cultizm.com/product_info.php?info=p33_Levi-acute-s-reg--BIG-E-1947-DRY-GOODS-501xx-LVC.html

i was saying that the op was wrong in thinking that soaking a size 31 would give him a 30" waist. he said that he was going to soak anyways, so your point is null. since the size 31 starts off at 32" in the waist, it seems that he is confused about his actual waist measurement.

and btw are you saying that my 29's dont measure 31? they started off at 30.5 raw.. i didnt know it was so unbelievable that they could stretch half an inch

i really want to do an initial soak though. size 30 is sold out anyway at SE. i think 31 will be perfect as the waist will shrink about 0.5-1 inch.

although they will shrink a little after a hot soak/machine dry, the waist will be right back where it started within an hour or less of wear, and after a few days will measure larger than the raw

my 29's currently measure almost 31 in the waist..

shrink to fit does not mean that a 30 will shrink to 30 after soaking; it means that the jeans are unsanforized and will shrink significantly after a wash, not necessarily to the tagged size. if you look at the measurements for the one wash, a size 30 xx-007 will shrink to a 31" waist. the one wash is the same jean, same cut, but the shrinking has been done at the factory.

and one-wash jeans fade the same as raw jeans, it may just take longer for the combs and whiskers to set in, since all of the starch has been washed out. although if buying raw jeans that are unsanforized, you will need to soak them before wearing anyways. the only real difference is whether you want to wear the jeans right out of the box or if you like to control the variables of the first wash/soak.

my size 29 xx-005 fit about the same in the waist as my 29 5010xx 6x6, but the pbj's are much slimmer throughout the thigh and calf

most jeans discussed on this site are produced with vintage details, such as the leg twist not being corrected for in the cut; not sure if this applies to apc's tho

My petit standards inseam sort of twists a bit and it makes it so that my jeans are twisted sideways at the bottom of my left leg.I have seen it on other pairs of worn in raw denim. why is that?

per the evisu denim glossary:

Leg Twist

Many vintage jeans are prone to leg twist. This is simply a natural adjustment of the fabric which tends to follow the direction of the weave. Leg twist was eliminated in the 1970s by skewing (contorting the denim to its after-shape) and later revived with Levi’s Red and Engineered twisted-seam jeans.

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=19672

also

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=14740

sent you a pm

wear them lower..

you could always use a belt, or exchange them if you think you can fit into a 34

so are the 5010 blacks zip up?

looks like buttons to me

chantheman - that's jennifer aniston right?

yes, it is

Hey whats up? Has anyone done the Butler service? How exactly does it work, and what do you get out of it?

magical google search reveals:

http://la.racked.com/archives/2008/10/23/launches_releases_apcs_butler_worn_out_by_you_denim.php

in short: you bring in your worn apc's, you get 50% off a new pair

I'm finally looking to diving into japanese denim. I have a pair of raw fultons in size 30 that fit me really well and I want something comparable. I had apc ns a while ago in size 28 but they were a bit more tight then I want now. I'm thinking either pbj xx-005 in size 31 (ive liked these for a while now), eternal 811 (31 or 32) or skull 5010 in 31. All most likely one wash. I'm about 5'10 160 and lookin for a slim straight. Thanks superdenim

if you were uncomfortable in the apcs, all of these jeans will be as slim or slimmer than new standards. the eternals are probably your best bet. although the thighs are just about as tight as on the xx-005 or 5010xx, from the knee down they are wider. and as a side note, if you get the skulls go with the raw ones; theyre sanforized so washing wouldnt cause much shrinkage, and the one wash skulls are more prone to falling apart due to the factory washing/drying process.

I have NS in 34 which fit me almost perfectly, not super skin tight after stretching a bit, 33 is probably a better size for me. I just am starting on stretching out my new Samurai S0610LX in 34, and I still can't button them up. The thighs are still pretty tight, but the rest I think looks good. Any idea of what size I should be in on the xx-005?

Well 36 is the largest size on BiG, which should have the same waist as your NS before they stretched, assuming they were tight in the waist at first. I would try the 36 first then exchange for a smaller size if you think you could fit your thighs into them. These don't stretch too much in the waist, about 1.5" with wear, possibly more if you stick something in the waistband and wet it.

so i was planning my next buy and ran into a little dilemma

stuck between the SEXI04BK and Dior 19c MIJ

was planning on getting a black pair either way

but everyones input would be a huge help

are you getting the sexi04 from self edge? they only have one pair left on the website and its a size 34

waddya mean?

SUPERDENIM SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD (Use instead of making new threads)

Denim newb question: I usually wear APC Rescues in size 28, which are a good fit through the thighs. Are the size 30 xx007's thighs roughly similar or is it much slimmer?

probably a lot slimmer, i went from 27 ns (slim fit, prob 2" of extra fabric on the thighs) to 29 xx-005 and the thighs were skin tight on the pbj's until they stretched. you should probably be looking at the xx-009 if you're used to wearing rescues

leg opening isnt going to stretch unless you have some massive kankles

nah haha I was just coming to this thread not to make my decision on what other people thought I just wanted to see how imperials were looked at in the denim universe

for the price, you could get a pair of jeans with much better denim

That's not really the case with these two. The top one (SC 1947) is finished with a pink thread - that I get. But the other (W+H) isn't finished in the same way. There is no finishing thread per se and the twill changes direction through the white and black stripe.

oh i see what you mean, the wale reverses after the indigo warp stops. from what i can gather about weaving on wikipedia, it seems that on the SC 1947's, once the indigo warp ends into the white warp the weft continues to be added in the same direction as it was previously going (say, left to right, finishing the indigo warp, then back from right to left starting on the first white thread). on the W+H it seems that the indigo warp is finished in the left to right direction, then the loom is reset back to the left before beginning on the white thread.

another noob question,

can someone explain what causes crotch blow outs?

im going to guess its caused by the thighs rubbing together and against the crotch area. my thighs dont touch when walking/longboarding and ive never had a problem with crotch blowouts

Can anyone help me out by explaining (or directing me toward an explanation of) the difference between this type of selvage edge:

different denim mills use different colored thread to finish the selvage. two different colored selvage produced by the same mill are used to designate different denim. to answer your question literally, the difference is the color of the thread used to finish the selvage, which is completely arbitrary unless you know the labeling system of the mill.

lol mine look like that too, even if pulled up. i think its a result of having no ass