conqueror

On 2/20/2021 at 5:54 AM, julian-wolf said:

@conqueror how big does the neck opening measure, if you don’t mind? Been meaning to try out SC shirts but the long-sleeved ones aren’t quite long-sleeved enough

i have a BNWT sugar cane madras shirt in XL for sale. i live in australia, but postage shouldn't be too insane as it's just a shirt. measurements available upon request. perfect for summer.

1 hour ago, peter1 said:

Second from top? Not so much an issue with the button placement or hole size, but in general I'd say the chest is not as roomy as it could be for the sizing (a 40 in my case). I wear mine generally open as an overshirt over a T or light oxford/madras, but when I do button it, normally just the 3/4 buttons because I can't be bothered to do up any more. My problem (well, not really a problem, more of an observation) is that the waist circumference could be larger, or the length could be shorter. I'm pretty slim but if I fasten the last button the waist rides up and bunches out, probably because it's a couple of inches longer than a vintage Type 2. 

 

 

sorry, yeah, i meant second from the top.

does anyone have a somewhat awkward second button on their 50s jacket? all my other buttons do up perfectly, except the second button down is really strained and pulls significantly. i've noticed this is super common in various TCB fit pics too, although it's just isolated to that second button...

i'm sure a ton of people in this thread and various other places can give you more current advice, but it will always be a gamble. the other thing to keep in mind is the cyclical nature and fairly uniform view of what's considered a desirable aesthetic in communities like these: when this thread started in '07 and i signed up in '08, the term 'techwear' didn't really exist and slim fits + sizing down on absolutely everything was king. it's the complete polar opposite now, although it will inevitably change again. acr back then were perhaps on the fringe somewhat of being influenced by this, but very few labels are completely immune and can still survive as legitimate 'outsiders'. bless and ccp are two salient examples off the top of my head.

16 minutes ago, russo_cypriot said:

Now I'm even more confused... Are there any general sizing rules for acr jackets? It seems they are all over the place

i haven't worn any acr in almost a decade (!) and only ended up with one single shell, so i have no idea. if it makes you feel better, i currently have stuff ranging from XS (an engineered garments cagoule) to XXL (a bronson work shirt, which ironically fits smaller). sizing never gets easier...

edit: unfortunately many labels aren't consistent between years and collections etc. EG is a prime example, as their sizing has often been a complete rollercoaster. again, no clue about acr in 2021.

5 minutes ago, russo_cypriot said:

And sleeves length was not an issue?

not that i recall. with the exception of some barbour jackets and the occasional MIJ shirt, i've never really had issues with sleeve length. if anything, i tend to have the opposite problem, although i personally prefer sleeves to be slightly too short than too long (which is the complete opposite to 99% of people).

1 hour ago, russo_cypriot said:

I'm also 6'2 (189 cm) and happen to own a J44-SD in XL. It fits fine as I'm on the heavy side (~90kg), but the sleeves are a bit too long for my taste. Since you are skinny I would assume you should go for M or L. Also, now interested if there is anyone here who is around 6'2 and rocks any acr shell in size S? 

i haven't owned any acronym since 2012, but back then i had one shell in a S. i'm 6'1 and was probably 72kg at the time.

do sugar cane shirts shrink much in people's experience? i have two long sleeves in L; one fits perfectly, the other is a little too snug around the shoulders and arms. subsequently, i took a gamble on a short sleeve madras western shirt in XL and it's huge. not sure whether to try a hot wash + dry, or cut my losses and try to sell it onwards as BNWT.

edit: it's funny because for years most of my bad luck re: sizing was due to garments being too small. these days it's the complete opposite.

On 2/1/2021 at 5:43 AM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

I'm sure most of you know the shop BEARS in Shimokitazawa,Tokyo. 

If you didn't catch it yet, since the closure of global Rakuten, they opened their new overseas webshop 

https://bears-tokyo.myshopify.com/

 

Super easy to order from, perfect English communication and a great selection. On top of that, free shipping. 

thanks for the heads up. their styling and 'modelling' of shirts is fine, but the jeans...

just received a bob dong ultra-heavy flannel as i really cannot justify paying (imo) obscene amounts for the IH equivalent. i read BD tends to fit smaller than bronson if anything, but unfortunately this fits much bigger than the two bronson shirts i own in the same size. absolutely love the colour (although i realise a lot on here will find it garish), so i'm tempted to re-order and try a size down...

thanks all: i'll grab the L when hinoya restock it. tempted to try the XL but i'll wait.

On 1/2/2021 at 8:02 AM, JMS said:

I know there has been decent discussion on the 1966s throughout this thread, but would anyone mind offering some (more) advice on sizing? 

I wear a 33 in the 1947s. 

The 66 fabric is sanforized right? Not much shrinkage? 

I'm tempted to get a 33 as well, but I'm assuming they'll sit at a different place on the waist. 

 

Thanks for the help everyone! 

i don't own the 47s, although i have the 66s in a size 32. i pretty consistently wear a 33/34 in other non-SC denim and talked about my experiences with sizing earlier in the thread. in short, i found the measurements deceiving as the size 34 in particular was absolutely huge. 33 was borderline okay, but still too loose and sloppy for my liking.

1 hour ago, goodrain said:

if you like the fit on the model then go with medium

https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=341

that dude is the same measurements as me? i was tossing up between a L or potentially even a XL.

i've never owned a buzz shirt before, so can anyone comment on sizing for the l/s chambray work shirt? i'm 6'1/80kg with a 39.5"ish chest, normally a M in western and L in japanese labels.

i have a completely deadstock US army desert night camo fishtail parka from the gulf war, complete with the button-in quilted liner. you can get them pretty easily online, but they're usually worn and/or missing the liner. i love it, even if the medium is huge on my 6'1/80kg frame. supreme did a version with a massive and obnoxious 'riot' logo on the back a few years ago. 

whites want $200 USD to ship a pair of boots to australia. i'm giving danner my money instead.

united carr is a sub-label of toyo and usually a quarter to half the price of buzz. i bought a UC MA-1 from hinoya about seven years ago as i didn't like buzz's offering at the time (USAF logos) nor william gibson's (colour). quality was very good for the price, though i ended up selling it shortly after it as i impulsively bought a size too small.

edit: from memory, the dude at hinoya said the only significant difference in construction was MIC vs MIJ and 50/50 wool/cotton vs 100% wool cuffs. i actually prefer cotton for that myself and don't really care about MIC, even though i own other buzz etc items.

similar to other 'personalities' in design and fashion, lofgren has always struck me as someone with a fairly significant ego. i'm not offended by his post, but i can completely understand why a chinese or indonesian fan of his would be.

received my first bronson order.

heavy cotton pocket t-shirt: fits great, constructed well, and has a nice weight. absolutely zero complaints for something that is only marginally more expensive than uniqlo (tees and socks are pretty much the only two things i refuse to drop $$$ on). i was only able to get one of these in 'ginger' as every other colour was sold out, but i would definitely order more.

wabash worker shirt: again, very good for the price and overall better than i expected. slightly too big on me and a 42/XL would probably fit better, so i'll likely wear this unbuttoned. one minor gripe is the arms seem to be cut particularly wide around the bicep.

spire watch cap: unfortunately i have eczema and can't wear wool on my head, so finding a decent watch cap in an alternative material is often a challenge. this is super thick and seems to be of decent quality, however, the design itself is sadly more akin to an exaggerated 90s carhartt beanie as opposed to a 'traditional' cropped watch cap. my head is absolutely massive and the length of this (pause) is actually comical.

for reference, i'm 186cm/80kg and typically wear a M in most western brands and L in japanese labels. based on advice from bronson and here, i ordered both shirts in 44/XXL (!!!). sizing up was absolutely essential, despite my initial reluctance.

edit: shipping from china to australia took about three weeks.

one of their head designers—cotton duck—used to post here back in the day.

12 minutes ago, aho said:

Man what a thread bump! Also seemingly fitting that Satisfy Running is an athletic wear brand...

it looks to be much more successful than april ever was. i guess luxury sportswear is a much bigger market overall, especially these days.

On 4/7/2011 at 5:10 PM, conqueror said:

yeah, i just got some joey thunder black's in the mail in a 30 (which i normally am and is usually perfect) and they are too big. seem looser in the legs, too.

just finished cleaning up some stuff at my parents' house and found these buried at the back of my old bedroom closet; i ended up exchanging the 30s for a size 29 which is unfathomable to me in 2020. they're now available as-new with a ton of other stuff at the salvation army in darlington, so hopefully someone picks up a cheap steal!

since retiring april, it appears brice now runs a new parisian label called 'satisfy running'.

edit: seems fitting that this thread died on page 77, too.

how is the sizing of bronson vs bob dong tees? do you order the latter directly from taobao? my chinese isn't so great...

edit: bob dong might be out since i'm 186cm.

i personally think the shoulders are too wide and it's significantly billowy in the torso, particularly at the back.