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I can't quite see the logic of wanting a museum-quality repro, and then complaining that the fabric is the same weight as the original!

Hahahah. Word.

And as far as wear, it looks like you've gotten plenty of tough wear out of your 1873 repros in the past few years, with minimal fading, and they're still holding up.

From what I understand, denim weight is different than denim durability. Wasn't there a thread on here a while back about denim weight being independent from denim durability? Or am I thinking of something else?

Last bump!

Me no understand - there are no photos of the arcuate here?!?

ON these earlier '1873' repros the arcuate was single-stitched, but the yoke has a double line of stiching where there should be one, as the new pair seem to have. I can't say that they're exactly the same, but they look similar. Are the rivets very square and flat-topped on yours?

If the fit is good I'm sure they'll be more successful than mine were, but make sure you keep washing to a minimum, just like they did in 1873...

Sorry, Paul. I meant in this photo:

Those are your 1873 repros, right? The arcuate looks too consistant on these jeans - like it was stitched from a poorly designed template.

And I understand what you mean about the single stitching on the yoke - you mean one pass with a single needle, right? Because mine (obviously) have been stitched with two passes of a single needle on the yoke, creating a bit of unevenness between the two lines.

II'm pretty certain these are essentially similar to the last 1873 jeans in natural indigo.

Mine looked great raw, but wouldn't shrink, and wouldn't wear. It bugs me that there has not been much of an attempt to make these an accurate repro.

The arcuate on yours, Paul, look hokey. Is all the stitching double-needle on yours? Mine were assembled with single-stitching. As far as shrinkage, I'll see what happens. They fit fine right now, and I'm going to wear them for a while before soaking them.

emaze, lovely collection, but the last pair isn´t a regular RED one, is it? the arcuates are great on these...

Nope, that's redloop, not Levi's RED, hence the red belt loop at the right.

Well, I just picked up a pair of the 1873 jean from Levi's in Beverly Hills today, and find them fantastic.

I'm most happy with the colour, which as mentioned, is a light greeny blue. The denim, being 9oz, is extremely lightweight, and has a soft and smooth handle, and doesn't have any of the stiffness of later Levi's jeans, though it is a shrink-to-fit denim. Though it can't be seen so well in the pictures, the denim has quite a bit of streakiness The selvage line is plain white with ecru bands woven in. All the stitching is done via single-stitch method, which creates irregularities along the pocket edges, yoke, arcuate, and hems, and gives the jeans quite a bit of character. They look and feel hand assembled.

Overall, I have no gripes. The only thing I noticed was that the leather patch bears the phrase "Renewed March 16, 1875" in reference to the rivet patent. Because Levi's doesn't even have a jean in their possession that dates back to 1873, I find it acceptable that they did their best to not "make up" any details, and chose to apply a later patch design.

Because I do not have the luxury of time travel, as Electum does, I can't vouch as to whether or not they would look at home in a 19th century trading post). I am nevertheless very pleased.

About the fit, the thighs and top block are much wider than expected! Fit and detail pics to come when there's more sunlight.

And a color comparison showing these next to my deadstock 1947 501's.

Going once.

First bump.

I actually have deadstock Baker and Candlestick Maker jeans for sale in the supermarket right now if anyone is interested.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?p=809899#post809899

Those jeans are weird, would love to see pics of them worn though.

And thanks for posting them up.

Here are some fit pics of the Baker Jean:

Here, I got some fit pics of the jacket, now that it has arrived:

And the selvage:

I have the following jeans available for sale and want to see if anyone is interested:

For a thread on these jeans, please visit: http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=33614

Nick The Candlestick Maker - Body Wax

These jeans are cut slim and square, much like the vintage 606's from the 1960's. They include leather leg protectors, which would have once been used to protect a candlestick maker's legs from the heat of the fire he would work over. Wicks dangle from the back pocket, waistband, and knees. The finish is complete with wax drippings.

Sizes 32/34, 36/34

Asking $130

Pat The Baker - Oven Ready

Cut with extra long and loose legs, the shape of this jean is reminiscent of billowing dough. They come coated in what looks and feels like flour and dough. The legs have adjustable and removable canvas leg protectors. The cinch runs from the sides of the waist all the way across the back. Other details include suspender buttons on the waist band, and a snap on one of the belt loops. The denim has a super soft hand.

Sizes available: 30/32, 32/34, 34/34

Asking $130

As promised, here are some pics of the 1st Giant jeans from the first 1999 season.

The green cast selvage denim is a 60% cotton, 40% hemp blend and has beautiful slubs and is a bit nubbly thanks to the weft being hemp. These have only seen water once, as I soaked them when I first got them to shrink them down a bit. They're super soft, and the draping is excellent. The one back pocket is internal, and can only be accessed through the inside of the pants.

And here's a better pic of the selvage, for Ninja

some green thread can be seen, seems its definately got green selvedge.

I just realised as well it could be Doshaburi, are they the only shop in the area that stocks vintage levis? If yes then that should be it, although the shop interior looks somewhat different, maybe they have redone it afterall its been some time. I do remember the brick arches and there's a small square outside the shop?

would love to see your 1st giants!

That's selvage for sure! The edge of the fabric is woven back into itself at the edge and is self-terminating (not serged together.) Otherwise, it would have thread sewn looping around the edge to hold it together (which it probably does higher up on the leg where the seam twists.) It just doesn't look like many selvage edges usually done on denim, because they usually come with white strips at the edges where the coloured thread is woven.

I must have bought them around 2000, from a shop in the Barri Gothic area in Barcelona whose name just escapes me.

I added a pic showing the inside seam, no green selvedge.

Was the shop Doshaburi?

And...strange. My 1st Giant jeans are made with green selvage denim, as were all RED jeans from the 1st collection. Look a little closer, and you might notice it. I'll try to get photos of my 1st Giant jeans up to compare.

As i mentioned above, heres some pics of my Levis Red cinch back jeans to share

I think they are called 1st Giant, but from the above link the same model has back pockets. Can someone shed some light? I would really like to find out what these are.

Actually, Ninja, these were a very limited edition model from the very first RED collection. The model is the "4th Signature Jean," which was similar to the 1st Giant model. I think they made about 5 signature jeans in very limited numbers from the first collection. The signature jeans from the later collections were usually hand numbered, with only a few hundred copies of each made.

BTW, that crotch gusset is wild! I'd love to see what these look like on. They're made of a green selvage hemp/cotton denim, right?

...and also the oversized-detailed Red range of around 2003, which became the Type One levi's. Those later jeans were fantastic - petrol blue colour, low tilted rise, and really good straight and skinny cuts. WIll shoot my pair and put them up here if no one beats me to it...

Beat you to it, Paul. Here's a pair I used to have, that I sold recently. It was a girl's straight cut:

And an ass shot from a lookbook I own.

True Religion really destroyed some of the design elements from this season when they totally ripped off the look Levi's RED pioneered.

Note the thumb-size lump of excess material under the pocket is sewn over causing the irregular stitching pattern -- a big knot on your ass is not very comfortable.

Aah, the beauty of the single-stitch. I think I'm going to get me a pair of these.

where does red loop fall into? I really though some of that stuff is the perfect mix between Levis red and their regular line.

Pretty sure Redloop is Japan only, and has nothing to do with the Levi's RED label, though I've seen them use some of the design concepts from Levi's RED after they were introduced. I think Redloop is more fashion oriented than the regular line, but not as conceptual or premium as RED.

Alright, since someone had asked about a manifesto in another post. I found a little blurb inside a look book I've collected:

A laboratory for denim innovation, Levi's RED has stimulated denimwear since 1999, breathing new life into accepted forms and functions and setting industry standards alight through radical design. Levi's RED is unequivocal and unapologetically subversive. With the spotlight on denim craftsmanship, Levi's RED is buoyed by the strong evolutionary nature of Levi's, with unambiguous allusions to Levi's unique heritage. Invigorating and independent, however, Levi's RED designs denimwear with a difference, branded with a compelling identity and personality of its very own. Independent from the dictates of fashion, Levi's RED creates new forms with enhanced fit and finish.

Levi's RED was launched globally in 1999 as a counterpart brand to LVC, and as a springboard for new ideas within Levi's. New collections were launched every six months in very limited quantities. This line continued globally until spring 2004, when the US got a different, yet still conceptual Levi's RED line, while the rest of the world continued the original Levi's RED line. In 2005, the line was phased out everywhere except for in Asia. Around the same time Levi's launched a slightly premium line in the US that borrowed the "Levi's red" moniker, though it wasn't the original line - This lesser line was quickly phased out. Fall 2007, however, reintroduces original Levi's RED line globally (minus the US.)

hmmm

Fit pics for sure. I wanna see how this pattern looks with the draping!

I had posted these a while back in the evolution of denim thread. From S/S 2002, I had worn these for 18 months before their first dry-clean. They've seen more wear since these photos were taken.

1st time ive seen these just now... i stated in my thread that mine were inspired by ccp and perplex and lola

Can someone post a link to that thread? Can't find it.

you work for levis dont you.

This is not an advert, only a discussion. I am just an enthusiastic collector. I've been gathering Levi's RED stuff since their first season in 1999, along with a few LVC pieces here and there.

So I just got these from Cultizm.com and am deeply in love with them and wanted to share some pictures.

As soon as I heard about the relaunch of Levi's RED for this season, I couldn't wait to get these. The concept for the collection is based on old illustrated advertisements from the Levi's archive. Inspiration was drawn from characters such as the lanky "sidewalker" and bow-legged cowboy.

The denim is an intense green-casted indigo with red selvage, and may have one of the tightest weaves of any jeans I own. The denim is also a cotton/hemp mix. And yes, that's selvage on the waist band, and on either side of the zipper. And yes, the pocket bags are made from denim! Because of the bowed legs, the jeans stack all the way up the sides of the legs. They're kind of hard to get on, though! I'm super skinny and they're a very tight fit. I can't wait to see how these fade with wear!

I also have a feeling there will be plenty of haters, since this is a pretty extreme concept. I can see it being filed under the ugliest jeans thread already.