braid

how should i first wash my sugar cane 47`s when they arrive, what works best??

Depends if they're one wash or unwashed. If one wash, most of the shrinkage is done for you. I'd just soak them in warm water for an hour and hang out to dry. If they're unwashed, try them on first to determine how much shrinkage you need. If not a lot, soak in cold water for maybe 30 minutes and hang dry. If they need to shrink considerably, soak in warm water for an hour or two and throw them in the dryer for 30 minutes. Soak again to be sure most of the shrinkage is out of the way but I wouldn't put them in the dryer more then once. Just the way I'd do it, YMMV.

You can buy them here...

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As for pictures of people wearing them, you'll just have to do some looking around. I haven't seen much....

not lookin for the "skinny" jeans look, just something that fits similar n actually i want it without the tapered leg. i'll most prob have to give them a try, hopefully i find something.

Sounds like Samurai S5000VX is exactly what you're looking for. Size down one from your normal size though. I wear 28 in new standards and 30 in all other jeans. However, 29 in S5000VX fits me perfectly and is not too tight.

ok, thanks braidkid... would you say the dryer will gamage them?? which model gives the most comfortable fit (as in not loose and not tight) if you know what i mean!!

I put mine in the dryer for about 30 minutes after soaking to help shrink them up. No, I dont believe doing this one time will damage them. However, I wouldn't make it a regular habit. Mine will never see the dryer again now that the initial shrinkage is out of the way.

Only SC's I have any real world experience with are the 1947's. I believe all of the sugarcane models are going to fit your description of not loose and not tight. The Okinawa models are the fullest cut I believe while the 1945 and maybe 1966 are the slimmest. You may want to compare LVC Levis 501 to the SC47. If you're looking for something slightly slimmer, these may fit the bill.

seriously??? FALLING OFF MY HIPS!!!! if that duz happen il be ok to throw them in the dryer wont i ??? is`nt that dooibble?? are unwashed not ment to shrink two sizes smaller and stay at that size??? to be honest to you (and myself) i think im probably more like a 31w possibley even a 32w but id say closer to 31w or 30w.. so i should still be ok with the 29`s yeah??? THATS KIND OF A KICK IN THE SPUDS NOW TO BE HONEST!!!

Yes, they will stretch anywhere between 1-2 inches after a few weeks of wear.

I wouldn't put them in the dryer but rather hang dry them.

If you're 31w, then get a 31. You indicated you were a 30 in your original post. I'm suggesting to err on the small side and control the size with soaking and wear while drying.

Let me also say, for those considering the S5000VX, size down.

I normally wear size 30 in all my jeans (28 in APC New Standards). I got a size 29 in the S5000VX and they fit me perfectly, not too tight. Therefore, I'd go at least 1 down from your regular size in these.

hi there, lookin to get some new jeans, been reading n reading...

but all the reading just gets me more confused....

i'm lookin for something that fits like apc NS(mine streched out so much i dunno what to do with it), but i like the materials n detailing on SC, is there any from SC that fits close to or exactly like APC NS? was lookin at the okinawas (snakeskin patch), the hawaiis (horse hair patch) can't really tell the diff... didn't try any was just looking.....

or should i be lookin at other brands like imperial or just get another pair of NS?

To be of slightly more help,

Yes, SC is not for you if you're looking for a "skinny" jean. The slimmest are 1945 and probably 1966 models but are not quite as slim as new standards. To be honest I'm not very fond of the SC47 fit and wear them primarily around the house or out when I'm tired of the "skinny" look and want something more relaxed.

If you're looking for something along the lines of new standards I'd highly suggest Pure Blue Japan XX-005. These are even slightly slimmer then my new standards but without the tapered leg. Another wonderful option are Samurai S5000VX, my favorite pair. They fit very similar to New Standards, but again without the tapered leg.

These are just a couple options that I own. I'm sure there are other options out there as well.

hello . im going to be ordering my 1st ever pair of sc`s this week sum time, and would luv it if i could get as many opinions as possible, im mad into that old classic original look. iv just discoverd sugar canes after years of searching and buying pairs of shite after shite, trying 2 replicate that classic look, colour and cut. (AT LONG LAST)... im more than likely going to order a pair of 47s as they seem to be what it is im after, and i dont fancy having to send them back. heres the question, im a 30waist and 32 leg.i dont like my jeans TO bulky or baggy, and (not TO tight) but just right, and after reading so much madness on this site i havnt a clue what size to buy or make (one wash or unwashed) 1 ,more thing, how do they fit at the bottom (around the ankles) i see history preservation does bootcut also, has anyone any advice on them???? would really value eveyones veiw. thanks every one....

Hello,

If you're truly a 30 waist, I would go with either 29 or 30. In my experience it is always better to size down as these will stretch quite a bit. As for unwashed vs washed, I'd go with unwashed then shrink on your own to help control your weight size. Soak a size 29 for an hour in warm water, ring them out, then put them on and go for a walk. This way they'll stretch out to your correct waist size. Give them a couple months and they'll be falling off your hips and you'll need a belt.

The are fairy straight from the knee down to the leg opening. Mine are 30/34 and the inseam measures more like 32-33. I dont have to cuff.

Hope that helps..

Got my S5000VX yesterday from BiG. Simply amazing jeans. I'm 6', 160 lbs and I got size 29. I normally wear size 30 in all my other jeans but heard you should size down in these. I soaked in warm water last night for about an hour and the fit is simply amazing. Absolutely no anti-fit diaper ass. The fit is very similar to my APC NS's only without a tapered leg. I think i've finally found my favorite pair and will post pictures later...

For documentation, here are my XX-005's. For reference I'm 6', 160 lbs, jeans are size 30 soaked once in cold water for 30 minutes. I really like them, they're a little lower rise then I'm used to but offer nice variety to my collection. I can't really see breaking these in from constant wear since they look almost distressed from the extreme slubby texture.

Someone may be interested in this wings and horns coat, size L

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Thanks everyone for your replies. I've been so tempted to sell these, but I'll stick it out in hopes I'll get used to them. I just got a pair of PBJ 005's and absolutely love how they fit.

BTW, for those of you looking for a pair, I would highly suggest contacting 2000dB. I ordered a couple things through him and received my items within a week to the states. I believe Sugarcanes in Japan still have the back pocket stitching but dont quote me on that.

I received my 1947 Sugarcanes from toggs.com last week. These were raw and size 30. They were extremely baggy when I first tried them on. I therefore soaked them for about 30 minutes in hot water, then hung out to dry. I tried them on once dry and they were still a bit large in the thigh and butt. I then soaked them AGAIN in hot water, this time for about 5 hours. I then put them in the dryer for about 10 minutes. There was a lot of indigo in the water after both soakings, probably due to the hot water. I think they fit a bit better now. I'm still not sure about the anti-fit diaper ass thing going on. Coming from my APC NSs and PBJ 005's, they'll take some getting used to.

What do you think of the fit? Will the diaper ass thing look better after a few months wear?

I agree, top notch service. I recieved my items in 4 days!!

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Very quick and professional service. I got my sugarcane belt in just 4 days shipped to seattle, wa. Thanks 2000dB.

I just got my SC47's the other day. After one soak they fit well, however, the butt is very "poofy". I mean it literally looks like I pooped my pants. I know this is the anti-fit but will this eventually look better and not poof out as much? I think I can deal with the anti-fit as long as they drape more over my butt. Does the poofy butt look of the denim improve over time?

Can anyone tell me if the JohnBull SC002's are antifit? The measurements on BIG seem to indicate that they would be with backrise of 16 and upper thigh of 12.75 inches. I'm currently selling my 1947 sugarcanes because of the anti-fit and dont want to make that mistake again. Any pics of people wearing it would be great. Thanks for any help...

ddml or cheap, I'm a size 32, help me out.

will these stretch enough or will it be uncomfortable?

They are a true Sz 30 so I would think they would be too uncomfortable for you.

No, they do not have the back pocket stitching. Just the red "Canes" tab.

So I just received these from historypreservation yesterday. Unfortunately I can't get over the anti-fit look. Hopefully these will find a good home elsewhere. I soaked them once last night and wore them around the house for a few hours. They are practically brand new . I'm asking $200. Thanks for looking.