coleslawyum

hey john11f, those jeans look awesome! if you dont mind, could you tell us what waist size they were originally, and what the measurements are now (especially hem opening)? im trying to decide between oni red's and blue's and this would definitely be helpful..

I think that the slimmer Blue fit is actually a little better. The Red fit is way too baggy IMO, even if you soak it.

hey, if you want to keep the leather patch from shriveling up, apply some mink oil, neatsfoot oil or leather balm and you'll be ok.

Neatsfoot oil smells like ham hocks… but makes leather real purdy.

gordon tells me that they are getting these in at BiG this week. comes with a box and a banner.

makes a nice x-mas/chanukkah/kwanza present for the denim lover in your life.

Egads! I'm a sucker for packaging…

Texture, color and smell. And taste…

I was hoping I wasn't the only one who saw a pattern.

Most likely it's marketing. But don't listen to me, 'cause I'm a PRPS hater since day one.

Feeling those pocket bags and matte black donut buttons…

so irony army just opened their online store, http://store.ironarmyclothing.com

i was wondering, what is the difference between RAW, RINSE and WASH? ie. does it feel different? comfort? fit different? what about stretch and/or wear marks?

RAW: Jeans constructed from fabric straight from the looms, starched, ironed and sent straight to you. Will shrink like crazy unless sanforized.

RINSE: Jeans that was once raw, but washed once, so most of the shrinking, if not all, is done.

WASH: Jeans that have been rinsed, but processed one more step, with either additional washing or artificial distressing or fading. Or all of the above.

EDO AI's all the way. The color of those are fantastic.

They look great, I really like the purple selvege. I didn't soak my Oni's before wearing them. Probably means they can never touch water now, unless I want capris. I'll deffinitely soak my SC's. Good luck with them.

Panda, hopefully you hemmed yours with a 4" extra inseam. You know, it's funny, I had a pair of raw Oni Reds on, while I was walking through some rain, but only the bottom part of the jeans got wet. When they finally dried, everything below the knee shrunk like crazy but the top part didn't. The waist stayed exactly the same, but now they kind of look like this:

Febreeze aint that bad, but if you sweat a lot or spill an assorment of fluids on your jeans, Febreeze will make it worse. Dry cleaning is the way to go if you want to get funk out. But the chemicals are terrible for the cotton, making the fibers weak. So the best thing to do is to wear the shit out of them, then soak it in cold water, gentle detergent and hang dry.

*EDIT* coleslaw, damn, you were examining the thread tension???

Miz, the thread tension is actually visible on some of the stitching. Actually, I noticed that some of the stitching was a bit sloppier than others, but the Samurai's were assh**e tight.

When I turned all of my jeans inside out recently, I have to admit, the Samurai construction was the best. The seams were the cleanest, the thread tension was the most even, and the fabric had the most consistent quality. Even down to the cotton pocket bags with the debossed art work. It was amazing. But not to knock the other brands, I mean they were pretty freaking good too.

What's the big deal on RRL anyway? I see this coming up a lot. How does it compare to Purple Label?

RRL is the vintage inspired denim arm of Ralph Lauren. RRL is kept in small quantities and small number of doors. So you can't really purchase it on the internet unless its used. You pretty much have to go to a store that carries it and purchase it.

Purple Label is just more expensive Polo, with nicer fabrics and construction. The country of origin varies like the rest of Ralph Lauren.

As for stuff made in China, the quality of construction has gotten so much better in the past few years. I've been to a factory recently, and the set-up, technology, and process is absolutely amazing. Also since you can import fabric from anywhere, you really can't tell the difference in the end. Granted, Japanese made denim, IMO, is still the standard, but China can pretty much make anything these days.

The prices are going to be decent for what you are getting. 225-350 for denim.

Why did the prices jump up an extra $100? You can still get RRL for $175-$250. And nevermind the sales online, instore and what not. Don't understand if it's the same product. I doubt ol' Ralph is ready to get off his pile of money to get involved.

where is the best place in NYC to get LVC items>? everytime i go to the levis store on broadway...they have like 2 pieces

Well, at one point the one on 14th street had a bunch, but these days it looks like shit. Got my type 3 there though. In a 48 too. But I think most days you gotta get online or something. The stores just don't carry any LVC.

Hey miz, there are shell indy's? Amazing. I kinda dig those AF21's. That might be my next joint, if it weren't for all these other f**kin' shoes I want to get. I'll be in the poorhouse soon, but at least my jeans and shoes will look fly.

I am really bad at determining fits based off of pictures/measurements, The 006 looks more like a repo fit and the black 005 more modern?

Or maybe ill keep both...

Keep 'em both, unless you are not feeling the vintage cut. The 005 is definitely the slimmer lower rise one, thats on par with the trend these days. The 006 is regular straight leg jean, but it's not baggy.

Ok thanks. I was considering a size 32 as well, but opted for a 31. My normal waist size is 30-31. Only considered to size up as everybody said how slim they were.

The 006 is actually a more relaxed fit, so if you like it slimmer, size down and soak it to death. Then it'll stretch out again, and you'll have to soak it again. But it's fun!

Chicken, you have a SICK collection… I admire the commitment you put into your wear.

What do these wallets have to do with this thread?

Wow, you're a thin dude! Those 5000's are swimming on you! Glad you soaked them. They are going to look real fresh.

Any chance you could post pics with them on?

Sure, but don't when I'll get around doing that being that I'm a working stiff. I'm contemplating whether to soak them, but I'm kinda diggin the fit now. I'll try my best.

This was an erroneous assumption to begin with. Narrow loom and cotton consumption does not a high quality texture make. At least not with any consistancy. You can have crappy quality selvage, great quality selvage, crappy quality non, and amazing quality non. Just having selvage doesn't really gaurantee anything about quality inherently...

True. Crappy cotton still makes a crappy denim, selvedge or not. Speaking of GAP, they actually had some nice stuff when they first came out with the 1969 collection. I have a pair of one wash from back then. It's really beautiful denim.

Yes, the 006 is pretty bananas. Actually the the color that it starts off as is a bit lighter than most jeans. It's also got a purplish royal blue hue to it. I think thats fantastic. And I have to agree, the 1 year 006 at BiG is absolutly amazing.

Yes at BIG. They started my denim obsession, but they're nice guys.

If you're in the U.S., I would go for RRL or APC, because of the price. Some models start at under $200. I think the best value would be the Sugar Cane 47's. But don't pay over $250 for them. Everything else like Samurai is too expensive, but the quality is there.