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Whoo-hoo! Summer is here, so it's away with the 40s TCB, and on with my 1880s natural indigo.
I actually can't remember if I've hand-washed or machine washed these, but the texture is lovely. Quite a lot of crocking for natural indigo. Right at the beginning of this thread I posted my last pair of 1880s from maybe 2003, Kurabo natural indigo fabric which was, frankly, awful. These are amongst my favourite LVC ever. Much darker in the flesh than on my Sony camera.16 -
LVC use a lot of different yarns; it's more or less a different yarn for every vintage. With Kaihara, they had already spec'd the yarns ready to go. I was told this about 15 years ago as there was always a worry that Cone would go under.
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Sorry to be late to the party... with apparently shaky hands (it's getting a bit dark here). Just out of the wash. Got some serious marbling last time so these went in inside out which has evened everything out nicely.
These look pretty much exactly like all my other TCB - all of which look great, so I'm happy. I have to scroll back to see who won, but for me, knowing I have at least another year's worth of wear is prize enough. Thanks to everyone involved for a great job.
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Wow, great stuff guys, lovely to see u Volvo, will be back with pix
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This has always been my favourite Sufu thread (I just had a nostalgic look thru and found fabulous photos I forgot), and you've raised it to a new level, @Flash! Well done, these look really exciting
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Hope you're all well. Sorry for my absence; especially sorry for being a chino guy due to new profession, plus I've been two-timing my 40s with some natural indigo 1880s.
But now the nights are colder I'm back with this lovely, much heavier fabric.Just machine washed them; they marble bigtime when washed right side out I notice . Apols for weird camera angle favoured by nipper who now takes photos rather than being the subject.
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I have no idea how long I've worn them for because I only tend to wear pre 20s denim in the summer. I've worn them a lot though so it's probaby 5-6 months.
They crock a lot for natural denim. Way more than my SDA. It's my favourtie of any natural indigo denim, and I think my favourite of any Cone. It's always been a very royal blue, but the amount of texture in the fabric is gorgeous without being too obviously slubby. These have had a hand wash followed by a machine wash and spin. I've reverted to spinning inside out after a horrible-looking recent wash with my TCB 40s.
There's a similarity with the other early fabrics in that they get large, smooth areas of wear but there is more whiskering here than other 1800s-style Cone. My three-pleat jacket needs a wash too, and is looking very good but it wasnt sunny enough to line-dry from wet and I can't face it shrinking again.
From a distance these look quite similar to, say, my 47 and 55 but they're very different close-up. A good amount of leg twist. So often, LVC jeans don't get dramatic traintracks (although I would point out that traintracks for some reason seem more common on 70s jeans than earlier ones). But these have pretty good train tracks, too.
I cannot explain why the whisters and fading are so assymetrical. Perhaps a peculiarity of the PT physique? Not happened before though, maybe I'm becoming irregularly stooped with my advancing years.
For me, these 1880s ran among my very favourite LVC. So sad that we've lost all the love and expertise that went into Cone denim, but this is a fine pair of jeans to remember them by. Plus I have a big roll of their indigo cotton duck that I have to get made into someting soon....24 -
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Just had my vintage Lotus Veldtschoen rebuilt by the Shoe Healer. Excuse the quick iphone snap. They had the leather originals in pretty good condition but they separated. These make a really good contrast to my Sargents, which are chunkier all round.
Every day wear for my walks over the heath to school, especially for those rainy days when the buses all disappear.
Thanks to Ben, who helped source these, and was the first to try out the Shoe Healer. Had all my shoes redone by them over the last couple of years now I am a salaryman22 -
So, the good news: my new job as a teacher has been every bit as stressful as you'd think, battling with unreliable public transport requiring a hike over Blackheath every day, and while every day is pretty inspiring I collapse in an exhausted heap at the end and count the days until my next holiday. So my somewhat undersized jeans fit pretty much perfectly, with - Volvo - no muffin top.
Bad news: no time for photos and a 3-day a week jeans regime. But here we are. Love to all.
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Looking great folks. Definitely getting a period look on the denim now it's fading in.
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57 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:Ah, the last of the Cone.
I actually have a pair of cut-offs in that fabric, from a factory fault, it's beautiful, and takes lots of washing.
lovely pockets on those pairs, too, although some of those imperfections ain't too subtle.2 -
Looking amazing, sir!
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24 minutes ago, volvo240thebest said:Lovely muffin tops everyone
Definitely not posting a fit pic now.
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Just got mine. 31 post wash measures a not generous 31 pre wash. There does seem to be room in the thighs and seat so I should be able to work with this, I figure they'll be an inch smaller in the waist than my LVC. Time to get out the ply and jigsaw. My pocket bags are lovely, olive green and hickory stripe.
My number seems to have changed from #14 to #125, sadly.
Gone back to ancient habits, warm soak. Given London's weather, who knows when they will be dry.
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1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:The label reads 0913, which I think is September 2013, or possibly week 9 of 2013, ie early March.
Sept 13 sounds right to me
@robroy I'm certain your jeans [with the mis-mismatched salvage] are legit. R code is normal from 2004 or so. I think it's a simple operator error at Cone, dropping the wrong spool in (perhaps it's possible they used a wrong bit of fabric at the factory in which case you'd see different textures from each side of the leg). THey don't have any of the normal fake tell-tales.
@andyrcii sorry if it looked as if my post was directed at you. Nice jeans. All 505 fabric (sanforized) is Kaihara.1 -
5 hours ago, Duke Mantee said:1934 as I understand it Paul - but yes you’re right. I think there was also a version prior to that but never went into production proper (401s). Apparently in 1930s NY women couldn’t wear denim? Probably something that slowed the potential market quite dramatically although denim was common in the working environment (farms/factories etc)
there was a big fanfare when the 701 came out in 36/7, features in Vogue, with lovely illustrations. I didn't know that the 401 was the same jean, I thought it was a more budget model but it's a long time since I've looked at them.
The idea of a front fly was regarded as very edgy. So a lot of contemporary jeans including Lee had a zip up the side, presumably to make it harder to fornicate. Lots of sex involved, as the 701 became the obligatory wear for heading to a dude ranch in Nevada where you could have fun while waiting out your divorce. So very racy - and also the first time jeans really became a fashion item.
The original 701s do look great, you could still buy 50s examples in the 2000s for less than today's repro prices and wear them, as they're not as collectable as the 501, and the cut still looked fantastic. They might well have been Levi's first Sanforised jeans too. There are a few items from the Western catalogues of the time that aren't fully documented in the regular cagtalogues (might have been sold through a different wholesaling channel) so there's a delicious mystery about them.7 -
9 hours ago, ameritech said:Anatomica makes a popular women’s 701 repro/ interpretation. No cinch back, but Levi’s never released a cut specifically intended for women with a cinch back until the late 70s under the orange tab (decidedly fashion and not workwear) line.
Don't understand this post. Levi's released the 701 Lady Levi's, Sanforized, buckle back, pink selvage, around 1937 iirc. There was also a budget model, the 401, likewise buckle back.
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yay, great jeans, as we recently discussed, nice catch! Are they NWT and were therefore rinsed?
My recollection is that all the repros were, but could be wrong.0 -
Hmmm. I am not sure how much mine shrank from raw to soak. But it was from soak to machine wash that there seemed to be a big change. It was dirty and folks on here told me off and to wash it properly. I don't like it quite as much now, although the fade is good. It's synthetic indigo. If you do decide to keep I reckon cold handwash only is the way.
The natural indigo 1880s are actually quite dark and purple in comparison. They're showing a bit of crocking already after only a couple of months.1 -
On 7/27/2020 at 3:11 PM, JDelage said:@SuperJackle - Not an asshole move, you were clearly in your right. This being said, I would have refunded, minus shipping costs. First, you took a risk with eBay & Paypal, second you'll probably get a negative rating, and third the pain of dealing with a refund is not that big a deal. My guess is you spent more time documenting stuff that you would have just accepting the return.
I've advised buyers that boots were too small, using measurements, they bought them anyway, and returned as too small. I'm too paranoid about neg feedback to do otherwise.
So usually I have standard wording saying no questions asked returns, but they pay postage both ways, and that normally provides sufficient disincentive for them to return. It's the loss pf postal costs rather than having to re-list that's a pain2 -
Yes. Mine shrank quite a lot for a 30 wash compared to initial soak. In length and width.
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6 minutes ago, dudewuttheheck said:I love that patch, but am I the only one who is bothered by the prop setup on that plane? It's clearly modeled after a WWII single engine fighter/dive bomber/torpedo bomber(probably one of the latter two, given that there are two animals in the plane instead of only one), but then it has two extra props on the wings, but no engines and the center prop looks stationary.
Obviously this doesn't matter and it's still the best patch ever, but I can't help but think about that every time I see it
It's a plane... being flown by cats. Cats.
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Lots of shrinking and lots of leg twist. It's similar, I think, to the yarns of the Cone three-pleat jacket with the natural indigo from Tennessee. (Edit: My story implies it's a different design from the jacket). The jacket is wonderful too. The natural indigo, if aynthing, seems to crock more than the jacket with synthetic indigo, which is the reverse of what we 'd generally expect.
Need to wash the jacket and check on the buttons and post update. Yes, those final Cone fabrics were wonderful. I'm so sad they've gone and we've lost all that knowledge. Perhaps it is Levi's fault, as they stopped using Cone for all 501, as they did at one time... but Cone people always told me that LVC were their biggest supporters and had always been flexible and helpful.