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My experience has been an initial shrink of 0.6cm at a 40c wash, and then a stretch of ~2.5cm from there after wear (without a lot of stress on the waistband, so you'll probably get more if it starts out tight.). After another 40c wash, the waist shrinks back down and then stretches back out the same amount.

These are still for sale—willing to part with each of them for $90 or so if you want to make an offer. I want to get these out of my closet and to someone who will wear them! Also adding a pair of Resolute 714 in size 33 × 32 to this list: These have been washed once after receiving them to get any shrink out but never worn more than just to try on. The cut just doesn't work for me unfortunately. Will part with these for $130 OBO. Measurements: Waist 32 Front rise 11.25 Back rise 14.25 Thigh crotch 12.5 Thigh 1” 12.25 Thigh 10cm 11.125 Knee 12” 9.125 Hem 8 Inseam 29.25

Are there differences in the denim used in the 66 and 47 models? Or just cut + period detail differences?

Thanks for this explanation! This has got to be it—the front rise on the Fullcount is actually ~0.25" shorter than the Resolutes, but the back rise is 1.75" larger than the Resolutes. This makes the front thigh section of the leg on my Fullcounts 1.5" smaller across than an identical measurement on my Resolutes, even though the "thigh measurement" is almost exactly the same. Not totally sure I am wrapping my head around why where the seams in the leg are makes such a difference in the fit, but I buy your explanation that this is the cause.

Maybe this is all in my head, but I've got a pair of size 32 Fullcount 1101, and a pair of 33 Resolute 714. They have almost identical measurements down the leg (we're talking probably 0.125" difference at any given spot), but the Fullcounts have a solid bit more back rise. What is making the fit around my thigh feel so different? Is it the way the pattern is cut? Can that make a difference? Is it in fact the back rise that makes everything feel looser and more comfortable on the Fullcount? I'm trying to get a better sense of what qualities of a cut give the jeans the fit I like and make them comfortable. Some pics for reference—both pairs are worn with the crotch at the same height: Fullcount 1101 fit Resolute 714 fit Extra fabric I can pinch around mid thigh on the Fullcount Extra fabric I can pinch around mid thigh on the Resolute

New model from Resolute? That all yellow stitching is a giveaway.

My 1101's after two hot washes + dryer and a week of wear. How'd I do on the sizing? Seems like I finally got a cut that works for my large-ish thigh : waist measurements.

Follow up with a comparison now that I have both. Measurements at every point down the leg are about 0.25” larger on the Fullcount 1101xx, but the top block is cut differently enough (slightly smaller front rise, larger back rise, good bit wider hip measurement) which makes them fit a good bit looser. Exactly what I was after.

Thank you for these! Interesting that the thigh is a touch smaller on the FC. I was expecting the opposite.

Yeah… thanks for the tip that they stocked both! When I checked earlier something seemed off hah. I was hoping to find a direct comparison between a stockist who has good measurement charts but they’re all so hit or miss. Funny how there are detailed measurements for multiple different points on jeans and no one seems to agree on what the measurements are on a model.

I've yet to find an online store that sells both the FC 1101 (new w/o arcs) and Warehouse 1001xx standard model to compare size charts—does anyone own both and could comment on the fit? It seems like the FC 1101 will be a bit roomier/wider at the same tagged size?

Awesome, that’s helpful to know. Sounds like it’s safe to hem after a wash or two. Way trickier to get right when you like a tiny cuff or quarter break + no cuff!

Selling two pairs of Warehouse 800xx. Please DM with any questions—happy to share pictures too. Warehouse 800xx one wash, size 33, $120 New with tags, never worn. Shipping cost covered by buyer (ships from California). Waist: 15.25” Front rise: 11.25” Back rise: 15” Thigh: 11.75” Hem: 8.5” Inseam: 28.5” (Chainstitched by Son of A Stag) Warehouse 800xx raw, size 32: $120 Hot washed to get the initial shrinkage out, worn for about an hour. Shipping cost covered by buyer. Waist: 15.5” Front rise: 11.25” Back rise: 15.25” Thigh: 11.6” Hem: 8” • • Inseam: 31.75” original hem

Can anyone comment on how much the one wash version of Fullcount's 13.75oz denim continues to shrink in the inseam with hot washes and some tumble dry? I like to wash frequently and was recently burned by a pair of Warehouse banner denim jeans that continued to shrink in the inseam after wash #6. I looked through a bunch of pages here and it sorta sounds like that is not really the case with Fullcount's denim? Is that true?