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Frost

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  1. Awesome, I'll get back to you within the week hopefully. Gotta wait out some real life events, but I'm very interested in these (don't worry if you'll sell them in the meantime, first come first serve!).

  2. Interesting discussion going on here about all the B&M stores targeting Denimio, how about Okayama Denim?

    It's not 2007 anymore, so why can't consumers in this day and age have the option to access Japanese denim at their domestic retail price through online shopping?

    It's a complex issue for all the B&M stores world wide for sure, but there is a sense that they all feel "entitled" to charge customers inflated prices and the local customers should just eat it up because that's the way it should be?

    It was mentioned somewhere that the sales volume of TFH in the western market is so small compared to their Japanese domestic market, if this is true for a brand like TFH, why would other smaller brands even care much about growing the western market? Quite frankly if sites like Denimio or OD are forced to shut down or lose accounts, consumers will be the big losers, while the B&M stores laugh all the way to the banks like it's 2007.

    People often say these B&M stores offer the best customer service etc., what else have they got going for them for the prices they are charging? They might as well shut the door and go home if they offer a mediocre customer service at those prices.

    Not everybody lives next to a B&M store, for those that don't, are they supposed to just buy through the websites of the B&M stores in their own country? How do you try them on before you buy them in this case?

    How about stop feeling entitled to say the word "undercut" and just give them a break?

    The fact of the matter is these B&M stores choose to go into a business selling brands which have an extremely limited market interest, times are getting tough and now they are crying foul.

     

    I get where you are coming from, I do, but the fact of the matter is that most brick and mortar stores are not making a lot of money from the sales of those brands as it is - they have to ask for the prices they are asking for, otherwise it would be impossible for them to turn any kind of profit. Nobody in the US/EU can offer those goods for the prices Denimio is offering them for or else they would go bankrupt in minutes.

     

    It comes down to this. Denimio/Okayama/Rakuten are offering all of those brands at Japanese retail prices - prices that are in no way, shape, or form doable for 'outside' stores because of taxes etc. It's like this with many products that are a lot more affordable in the domestic market than they are internationally.

     

    So when stores hear about shops undervaluing packages, selling items for cheaper than they are in the actual Japanese stores (e.g. TCB), it is understandable that regular stores who have to pay a lot of money to make the product available to their customers feel 'cheated' - simply because they cannot beat the system and KNOW that they are losing money because not everyone will spend the difference at their store just because of good service.

     

    What you yourself do, is up to you. Denimio took the ball and ran with it, and if you want to support them and get the best value for your money possible, that's fine. But I for one (and I have bought from Japan as well if the product wasn't available to me otherwise!) think that it is perfectly reasonable for brick and mortar stores to be angry and cautious about this development, as am I, and I am just a consumer. A diversity of stores is a good thing, and while I don't think stores like Selfedge will necessarily be shutting down because of this, THEY are big enough to have a say with the brands themselves and might be able to protect even smaller stores that are dependent on their sales. I like the diversity we are having, and I would love for even more stores to be able to exist - and so I continue to watch this development with a happy (readily available cheap clothes) and a sad (a lot of pressure on small stores) eye.

  3. Do we suspect that brands are using Denimio to make stuff available to a wide, worldwide market and if no intrest/orders they take it down? They may never actually even hold the stock.

     

    Could be - it is certainly worthy to note that many of the new product pictures are not the normal Denimio pictures, but are rather taken from the webstore of the brand (e.g. Eternal). You could always ask them to get you stuff from the brands they stocked anyways, even if it wasn't available in their (Denimio's) webshop, so this just seems like the next logical step.

     

     

    FYI, Denimio has lost many of their accounts in the last few months.. just in the last few weeks they lost their accounts with Samurai, PBJ, Somet, and Fullcount.

     

     

    Interesting. What does this mean, exactly? They will discontinue them/not able to place new orders? Especially interesting because they just launched the Samurai/ONI contest and already did a PBJ contest (although not without complaints from other retailers), so I kinda assumed that those two would be somewhat safe for them.

  4. Since Denimio is adding brand after brand to their portfolio at the speed of light (latest addition: UES), what do you guys think they add next?

    Or which brand you want them to add to their portfolio?

    Or which brand they shouldn’t add and why?

     

    Yeah, I was really surprised by that as well. We'll see how it goes, but it sure seems like they are going fast and hard and have the customer base to do so. I'm wondering whether their service will suffer for it in the future and how things continue to evolve, but they seem more and more like a gigantic warehouse rather than a small shop.

     

    I would love it if they stocked more niche brands that aren't readily available in the US/EU, and I would also love if they started to branch out a bit and stock some footwear brands. Kapital, Visvim, and the like would also be great, although I don't actually know if it would make much of a difference pricing wise in comparison to buying from US/EU sites.

     

    Although on the other hand, I would also like for some of these to remain more exclusive and elusive, since it certainly seems as if Denimio could sell that stuff pretty fast.

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