cheapmuthafukr

if they look like that after one day theyll fall apart afer a couple of weeks.

garbage

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

give me some ideas

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

good idea... i need some good books to read. and honestly, we should have a place for current events, politics, religion, discussions. why keep it stupid? we have alot of intellegent poeple here,(even if we cant spell or use proper grammer), and maybe we want to talk about less superfical things.

superficial is good sometimes tho, or i know i wouldnt be here.

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damn, i totally thought you were Tyler Durden...

--- Original message by denimdestroyedmylife on Mar 29, 2006 08:22 AM

is that good or bad?

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I think its unfair to make implications that anyone who wears (and can afford) what society calls "designer" labels is somehow not a whole person, not a wise, down to earth person.

The situation you described about being married with two kids and enjoying family life - well I think there will be many people who are in the same boat as you, but they also choose to buy expensive brands.... That doesnt make them less thoughtful / spiritual / knowledgeable / moral / aware etc etc than someone who shops thrift.

Anyone of us, if we were millionaires would buy all this shit to our hearts content.

I wholeheartedly agree that clothes snobbery is disgusting, and that labels do not make us better than the guy who doesnt wear labels.

BUT in the same breath, someone who chooses to wear thrift/ less expensive brands is not in anyway morally superior to those who don't. (Or feel the need to 'pity' people who wear designer labels).

Back onto the subject of jeans. The last two pairs I bought: one pair was around £10 second hand (around 20 US), these are currently my absolute favourite, I will be bidding on another pair of second hand jeans tonight on ebay, for around £20. (40 US)...

...But I have also just bought the type of Japanese brand jeans everyone on here talks about, which cost me $240 US.

For me, it is about the aesthetique. If a certain item fits the aesthetique I want at the moment, I will pay for it. Of course, I want to pay as little as possible for it.

--- Original message by sneakeraddict on Mar 29, 2006 08:20 AM

i never implied that its wrong to buy high end stuff... i said that i cant, i just cant afford to. i also never said i am better than anyone else because i buy thrift. i do it because i refuse to wear old navy and wal-mart clothing, not because it gives me a sense of moral superiority. if i had the money id be fitted in dior and shit like that, but i dont overextend myself to do it.

let me make this clear: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH EXPSENSIVE CLOTHING, OR PEOPLE WHO BUY IT. but if your quest to have the newest, most exclusive, most expensive shit out there leads to obsessive and destructive behavior, then maybe its time to step back and really examine WHY youre doing it.

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

history preservation has a buzz ricksons that looks real nice...

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

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people cant wake up untill they realise that they are asleep. its so easy to just go thru life and do what youre told youre supposed to do. watch american idol. support your president, were at war. buy, buy, buy. that dude did you wrong, fuck him up. the arctic monkeys are the best thing to happen to music since(insert last fad here). you have to seperate yourself from it completly before you can see how pervasive it is.

i was lucky, when i was 19 i got married, had a kid, and moved to a rural town in soutern va to work construction. i had no tv, no internet, and the closest city was an hour and a half away. i no longer had the corprate idea of whats best for me pushed on me all day long, and it forced me to develop my own ideas. i still dont watch tv. i get my news from npr. my entertainment is skateboarding, playing with my son and daughter, making music, and posting here, and thats enough.

--- Original message by cheapmuthafukr on Mar 29, 2006 07:57 AM

He's not the founder of Fight Club, he just wore non-selvage Levi's for a while.

--- Original message by Lars on Mar 29, 2006 08:04 AM

????????

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

people cant wake up untill they realise that they are asleep. its so easy to just go thru life and do what youre told youre supposed to do. watch american idol. support your president, were at war. buy, buy, buy. that dude did you wrong, fuck him up. the arctic monkeys are the best thing to happen to music since(insert last fad here). you have to seperate yourself from it completly before you can see how pervasive it is.

i was lucky, when i was 19 i got married, had a kid, and moved to a rural town in soutern va to work construction. i had no tv, no internet, and the closest city was an hour and a half away. i no longer had the corprate idea of whats best for me pushed on me all day long, and it forced me to develop my own ideas. i still dont watch tv. i get my news from npr. my entertainment is skateboarding, playing with my son and daughter, making music, and posting here, and thats enough.

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

something looks wrong... you would think if they have been faded out and bleached like that the redline wouldnt be visable.

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

i know what youre saying. im sure i could do it too, but its just too much psycologicly. i have enough stress in my life that i dont need any more. i feel if i had to, i could give up everything but one pair of my orange tabs, my chucks, and a couple pain tees, and be completly happy and still have people telling me how good i look every day. i think once you start getting into this stuff its very easy to become obsessive about it, especially if you come to this board, where people examine evry little detail. ive seen the level of obssesiveness grow since i started here, and i see the backlash that is gaining strength. think about it, you have more "do what you want, theyre just jeans" then "OMG... you washed your dry denim? you fucked up bad" then you used too, and its a good thing. moderation is the key to sustainability, and in the long run things always even out.

simplicity we use to survive, do what you doing properly, thats the way thru life

first off... best thread in a long time.

fade, its kinda nice when you realise you dont NEED all the designer crap, ya know. and as youre finding out, you will actually feel better about what you have when theres more behind it than a label and alot of your money. i dont buy designer clothes. i think STFs are too much to pay for jeans. i lust after some things(and if you wanna get rid of your diors for a fair price, i might break my rules here), but i dont think that it is the best use for my money. i have 2 kids, one whos mom gets 765$ a month from me, so thats where my money needs to go. when i want clothes i go to the thrift store. if i want some tapered jeans and i find some boot cuts i break out the sewing machine. i search and search till i find what im looking for, and i feel a real sense of accomplishment when i find it. i will also give away anyting that i dont wear alot to friends, just to keep myself uncluttered.

now, buying the high end stuff isnt wrong, just not what i am able to do. i would love to have so many things i see on here, but i know its not within my means so i tke it as inspiration and use that idea in my look. i am grateful actually for all of you who go out and buy this stuff, it lets me expand my ideas of how clothing should look, how it should fit, and then i go to the thrift and make it happen.

"simplicity we use to survive"-Sizzla

denim is the new crack

levis has some washed 47s for 99$ right now... lvc

denim is the new crack

i actually need a 6xl in pink and cream... how much?

denim is the new crack

yeah... but it would open peoples eyes to all the different choices. and if you factor in thrift stores, vintage shops, and discount stores(tj maxx, et al) then it isnt quite as clear as what really comes out on top. if you make the effort, you can find better than wranglers.

denim is the new crack

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Mar 27, 2006 at 01:18 PM

heres mine

70s ny punk

skateboarding

milspex(i wouldnt be caught dead in his fits, but goes against the grain of this place so much its refreshing)

my girlfriend

americana

joy division

the libertines

us milatary

superfuture(and ill admit it)

old men(they give less of a fuck than anyone else)

construction workers

the homless

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What's wrong with bootcut? Every pair of jeans doesnt have to fit like a leotard.

--- Original message by mspark on Mar 27, 2006 08:41 AM

but 505s dont fit like leotards... its just a more classic style and easier to find. if you like the boot, get it, if not, dont. also, for a more slim fit, if youre into that, look for 509. its like a 505 but cut slimmer down to the knees.

denim is the new crack

sorry... i see em all the time for less than 15$ at the thrift store. 90 euros is alot of money kid

denim is the new crack

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I remember when the wine craze hit ridiculous heights in the late 1980's / early 1990's.

Of course, if money was no object you could find fantastically exotic bottles of incredible wine that were almost too expensive to enjoy knocking back. Add to that the fact that many people got into wine simply for the status appeal of it, which was kind of obnoxious in itself.

So my friends and I thought... what a bore: there's no challenge in finding a good bottle for over $200 -- try finding a great one for under $5 ! (Don't forget this was the 1990's...). So we started an 'under $5 wine club' -- on our evenings together the winner was the one who brought the best bottle (as voted by the group) costing under $5. The prize was... well, $5. We had some great fun and drank some great wine I can tell you.

What does it have to do with jeans? If you look at the average price of really decent quality raw Japanese selvage jeans (Denime, Sugarcane, Samurai, Evisu Japan No. 2, Full Count, Dry Bones), it averages around 20,000 yen. That's about $170. Paying more than that gets you exotic stuff like natural indigo, limited editions, super slubby denim, etc. So my proposition is that unless you're into all that, there's no need to pay much more than $170 (plus whatever shipping, tax, fees, etc), and there are a lot of great jeans in that category for considerably less.

Edited by frideswide on Mar 27, 2006 at 12:12 PM

--- Original message by frideswide on Mar 27, 2006 12:06 PM

i think we should do this here with jeans. search out the cheapest jeans you would actually wear, and post up some pics and price. its easy to have nice shit for hundreds of dollars, but who can find good shit cheap? then we rate em on all the qualities that we denim heads care so much about. anyone with me?

denim is the new crack

levis... but nothing from the last... i dont know... 20 years or so

clarks

anything else i can find for less than 10$ at a thrift store

and i wont buy anything from dude who started this thread, or whoever hes doing this reserch for

everything else i could not care less about

denim is the new crack

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Mar 27, 2006 at 11:28 AM

wow... you did it... you finally combined elton john and hypebeast. crongrats

denim is the new crack

but dont get 517... those are bootcut... gi to a thrift store and look for some vintage 501 or 505, just make sure they are made in the usa.

denim is the new crack

roots manuva- run come save me

gangstarr- moment of truth

and co-sign on O.K........ heads still cant comprehend

denim is the new crack

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"it blows my mind how there are so many beautiful people there and at the same time so many idiot fucks....aaarrgghh!! It fucking pisses me off...."

--- Original message by englandmj7 on Mar 23, 2006 08:31 PM

Reminds me of the usa... and supertalk...

messege board moderation is the new crack

Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Mar 24, 2006 at 11:30 AM

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Edited by cheapmuthafukr on Mar 24, 2006 at 11:28 AM

and i thought you were a lee fan serge... but i dont like those jeans...

denim is the new crack