Took awhile but finally received the Pherrows items. Solid stuff! The 451 is quite ww2 era, contrast color thread archs ( think they used to paint the arcs during ww2 to save thread), herringbone pockets ++
This is 34x34. Very straight fit not much taper.
Waist 43.5cm
Inseam 84-85
Front rise: 30cm
Back rise 35.5-36cm
Leg opening: 24cm
Good space in thighs.