501XX4EVER

I hear what you're saying about the weight, I only have experience with Samurai 19oz denim on jeans, not a jacket, but I like the fact that this Extra Heavy Black 21oz denim doesn't fade. Might be nice for a change???

Not really being lazy, just asking a simple question as I've never purchased anything that expensive/big from Japan, only CDs.

Also, is there any reason DC4 is cheaper for Iron Heart products than IronHeart.co.uk?

Does anybody have any info/advice on what would be the the cheapest option to get a Iron Heart Extra Heavy Black 21oz Type III Jacket ?, ie buy it direct from Japan or from here in Europe?

Does anybody have any info/advice on what would be the the cheapest option to get a Iron Heart Extra Heavy Black 21oz Type III Jacket ?, ie buy it direct from Japan or from here in Europe?

I was looking through a different places yesterday for a jacket after seeing the 25ox Samurai jacket, had some problem with pockets that you do, and came across this one. It is a type II jacket, but the price is nice and can't go wrong with Sugar Cane. The price is nice at 15,540 yen. Will strongly consider getting this in the fall.

 

 

link for purchase http://pants-shop-avenue.com/item/SC11953N/

Yes, that's a nice one alright and the pockets don't look so puffy. I like the look of the collar as well, looks slightly bigger than average. I guess they must have done a Type I at some stage too???

/\ Might as well post it in here as well as the FH thread, disappointing that no-one has addressed it.

 

Actually it's a shame the lack of interest this thread gets outside of a few recent interesting posts.

 

To me the FH 6001 is at the higher end of the scale at 31k yen and I'm not sure I'd want to spend that much on a jacket. I'm still looking into this - and anyway am probably after a 3rd type / type III - but at that higher end of the scale from the regular known brands I'd have thought they're all pretty much comparable, but here's a few too be getting on with;

 

Full Count 2107 / 2737 / 2771

Warehouse 2101

Samurai S551

Studio D'Artisan DB-431 / DO1J-30

Denime 506

Joe McCoy 921

 

In some cases not all of these are still really available, which means tracking down old and/or discontinued stock.

 

There are plenty others of course - if you're looking, try a generic search on Rakuten or Yahoo Auctions Japan, but using '1st type' instead of 'type I' as they're more often listed as such I found.

 

Then of course there is the Forty Niners brand 'One Piece of Rock' model 406xx, and the Deluxeware DX401XX - both 1st type, ... and FreeWheelers lot 506XX .. it goes on!

 

..

 

Regarding 3rd type / type III - I quite like the look of the Joe McCoy MJ12035 / Lot.927.

Thanks for the reply. I was looking online and I can only really find pictures of the Full Count and the Samurai stuff. The Full Count looks nice and as much as I like the Samurai jackets, there is just something I don't like about the pockets & buttons, can't quite put my finger on it, but to me they just look a bit wrong.

The Flat Head appealed as it looked good on the DC4 website but on Rakuten it looks slightly less so and as there is zero chance of me seeing one in the flesh before I buy, that is all I have to go on, hence asking questions here. But you're right, for the kind of money they're asking, it's not really a purchase you're going to make on a whim.

I'd be a bit paranoid using Rakuten or Yahoo Auctions Japan, as I really don't like getting f'ed in the A by Customs.

With regard Type III's, I have had both good and bad luck with some of the Vintage Levi's Big E and LVC one's I've bought, good luck in that I got some really nice, excellent fit Jackets cheaply and bad in that I overpaid for some OK ones that don't fit so great.

I have seen a nice raw Flat Head Type III, very basic, no frills like most of their stuff but again, quite expensive. I also like the Iron Heart Black 21oz Type III.

I think the problem with this thread is it should be called "What about Denim Jackets" not "What about Jeans Jackets", I hate the term Jean/s Jacket, it's just wrong.

I think the biggest reason why they do the washing initially is so there is limited returns and exchanges in size. with jeans they have the vendors that are knowledgable in if the fit is too tight or too loose and how to size. but with a jacket that shrinks it is a bit more difficult to quantify dimension shrinkage and/or comfort of the garment if it is non-wash. just measure and purchase with no need to worry.

Good point, I never considered that, come to think of it, I haven't seen that many Japanese Raw denim jackets, maybe just the Flat Head Type III???

Also, looking at the Type II above and seeing some other Samurai Type I/II Jackets online, nice though they are, not only do the pockets look weird but the buttons seem to look a bit wrong as well, too fancy maybe???

clearly you still don't get it.

Nice, just over 10 posts on this Board and already a bitchy comment, thanks man.

Yea, but you don't really have to wash them do you?

I asked this question on a couple of other threads, but just to be completely annoying, I'll ask here as well. Does anyone have a The Flat Head Type I, 6001 W? Or if not maybe even post pics of other Japanese Type 1 jackets you'd recommend. Thanks.

^ the pockets do look a bit beefier than normal. I would agree with the weight of the denim being the cause of the unique look. It also might be that the denim looks rather dark and the contrasting stitching really makes it pop.

Glad it's not just me then.

Am I mad or would anyone else prefer this if it was raw, rather than one wash, maybe the pockets wouldn't look so "puffy"?

Is it just me or do the pockets look a bit weird, or is it just because of the weight/strength of the denim?

I take it the largest size for this jacket will be a 44?

My use of the word "looms" when I meant/should have said "equipment", seems to have perturbed some, sorry, my bad.

Hi,

I was a bit of a lurker on this and other Denim based Forums but decided to join this one as it seems the most knowledgeable, so......

Does anyone own a Flat Head Type I Denim Jacket, 6001W?

If so, how are they?

I've only seen pictures of them online and some of the pictures make them look amazing, others, very ordinary.

Also, I have a Size 48 Levi's LVC Type I, from 1996, with "555" on the back of the buttons and the size post shrinkage is a bit weird, I notice most of the Japanese Jackets only go to 44, so would the Flat Head Type I even fit me?

Yep, you're probably right. I just thought that because the first mid 90's run of LVC stuff was done there using, supposedly, the old looms, that it wasn't quite a "working" factory, just a kind of elaborate museum full of their old equipment that they dusted off for their new Vintage line.

My undesrstanding is that the number on the back of the top button and the corresponding number on the care tag relates to the location of the factory where they were produced, "555" being Valencia St., the most famous. The original run/issue of the the LVC range came out in 1996, I think, and they were all made in Valencia St. and stamped "555". The jeans I have and the one you linked above date from around 1993. I didn't know they made standard 501's at Valencia St. until I found the pair of 34x36 on ebay. I'm tempted to go for those ones you've linked just because the other pair are so good.

OK, thanks, no problem, those types of NOS 501's appear on ebay quite often, but "555" is quite rare.

They are still an amazing pair of Jeans. I have a pair of 34x36 from the same era and they're also "555". They fit so perfectly it's like they were made for me.

What's the story with that Site?

Hi,

I was a bit of a lurker on this and other Denim based Forums but decided to join this one as it seems the most knowledgeable, so......

Does anyone own a Flat Head Type I Denim Jacket, 6001W?

If so, how are they?

I've only seen pictures of them online and some of the pictures make them look amazing, others, very ordinary.

Also, I have a Size 48 Levi's LVC Type I, from 1996, with "555" on the back of the buttons and the size post shrinkage is a bit weird, I notice most of the Japanese Jackets only go to 44, so would the Flat Head Type I even fit me?