Arethusa

As much as cleanser or moisturizer.

I used to go to Men Essentials religiously about 2 years ago, mostly just reading hermes' posts.

It's what lead me to try California North face wash, although I found that it didn't suit my skin as well as it had for most people. I'm going to give Baxters face wash very soon (as soon as my new Visa debit arives in the mail).

I should probably get a toner too, although I'm not too sure which one. Does James still sell those packs with small samples of everything?

Cooome baaack..

Nah, he had to stop a year ago because they were costing way too much money

and people were kind of abusing it. You can still ask him for specific samples, though, and he'll throw them in with your order if he has them.

Sharps has some good, basic/natural products. Clinique for men has good cream... some stuff is a little too chemical esq for me.

Sharps puts out some good stuff (though they've had some internal problems lately; I don't know what's happening with that). The toner in particular is excellent.

Clinique, though.. Clinque just doesn't.

Guys. Internet. Public forum. Heavily trafficked. Readable by anyone.

Oh my fuck. That shit is insane.

But electrics still suck.

They were probably getting a couple million hits constantly refreshing for half an hour. Even google'd probably slow down under that. Told you this would happen.

I considered getting that bike. Not a bad deal. Guess I'll pass for now, though.

I tried, and I got in in time, but I couldn't figure out how to add it to my cart!!!!

Oh, damn you.

Nickel is generally much more expensive. Look pricepoint/oz. I'll admit that calling MenScience mid range might be a little bit of a stretch, but at least in my opinion, they justify their prices a lot better than Nickel.

That is ridiculously fucking cute.

Tell me about it. Being half Asian's a bitch.

Wow nickel products are really expensive. I've never tryed expensive skin care products. Is there a night and day difference between cheaper and expensive products?

The short answer is yes and no. The long answer is also yes and no. Generally, with the cheap stuff, you get what you pay for. Most of it is terrible, and standout products exceedingly rare. But that correlation isn't so reliable in the high end. There are mildly expensive but fucking excellent lines like MenScience, there are good but ridiculously expensive lines like Nickel and Aesop, and there are stupidly expensive lines that are complete garbage like Varvatos. It can take a while to sort through it all and find what works for you, but I obviously think it's worth it.

i use shiseido mosturizer/toner/energizing gel...the toner is amazing and the mosturizer is an emulsion so it absorbs very quickly without leaving any oily residue. i currently just use cetaphil as my clenser. what is task? hm maybe i should try keihl's, i love their lip balm with spf 15.

All moisturizers are emulsions.

Yo, Noble Product coat got here today. Much lighter weight than I was expecting, but it's cool. Thanks, man.

Just got these.

Yeah, good luck getting one as a million other people DOS Amazon's server farm. It should be entertaining, at least.

Arethusa, you have to admit that Nickel & de Provence (shea butter stuff) are great fcukin products. I also adore Molton Brown black pepper for my showers, really doubt you can find something better on the market.

What do you think about Clarins and Task essentials?

Need advice on shampoo + conditioner. I currently use American Crew everyday for normal hair & AC cond. Suggestions?

Nickel's not bad at all, but they can be really overpriced. And their packaging is just obnoxious as hell. Overall, in my opnion, there are better lines, but they're not bad.

I'm not familiar with de Provence. Do you mean Pre de Provence or L'Occitane en Provence, by any chance?

Molton Brown is a brand I don't have a lot of first hand experience with. I hear a lot of mixed things, but everyone seems to love the black pepper body wash. I'll get ahold of it some day, I suppose. Right now, I'm using MenScience body wash, which may not be exciting but is superbly effective.

Clarins is ok. I don't really know anyone who uses their stuff, except their self tanners. Personally, I think fake tanning is pretty silly (though I'll take that over the idioct of real tanning), but if you must do it, they're supposed to be a good choice. Personally, I think you can generally do better fairly easily. For what it's worth, I received a gift basket of Clarins samples last year. Whole thing went up one eBay. As for Task, I admittedly don't know anything about them.

American Crew's shampoo isn't bad. It isn't incredible, and it can be fairly drying, but it's not bad. I clip my hair down to a zero or one right now, but I do use the Citrus Mint shampoo to wash my head. When I had longer hair, I did find a bit too stripping. Broader recommendations can be a little tough with this stuff, because, like skin, hair types vary a fair bit, and what works for me can be utterly useless to you. That said, Aveda makes pretty decent stuff that smells delightful and I used to use Redken All Soft on my half Asian hair. Admittedly, I've had trouble finding a shampoo that really works for me. When I grow my hair out again, I'll have to get back into that.

I've got the oily T zone as well and have used many many things over the years. I first started with clinique, absolute garbage. I used neutrogena for awhile and the deep clean is their best product for clearing up skin but you need to moisturize after that. Used zirh for awhile also which was crap then moved onto the whole cheaper is better "cetaphil" wagon which actually made me break out more. I was then using the anthony logistics orange scrub and algae cleanser which was pretty good but I noticed my skin would flake more in the shower, think wet. I was using kiehl's moisturizers including the ultra non spf which is heavier and worked better as the spf version was too lotiony. Then the men's facial moisturizer (forgot the name) worked better, less shine too.

I then switched to task cleanser and it blew all the other cleansers out of the water. I followed with kiehl's but still wasn't enough. I opened my task moisturizer and with so little my skin stays moisturized and t zone becomes the most matte out of any other ones I use. It's way too expensive but works very well for me. I also use the task scrub. Haven't used my eye cream. It's nice when your girl is the cosmetics manager at nordy's and sends you free stuff including the lastest colognes and kiton wool plaid toiletries case

Let me know if you want to hear my shaving routine and arsenal.

Yeah, cetaphil's really gentle and even questionably comedogenic. If you have oily skin, you should avoid it. Same for the AL algae cleanser. It's basically designed for people with dry skin. As for Kiehl's, well, they may, for some reason, work well for you. With precious few exceptions, though, I think they put out pretty bad stuff at pretty ridiculous prices.

Guess I'll have to see if I can find some Task samples or something. Shaving, though.. man, that could easily be its own thread.

I have insanely sensitive and ultra-dry skin. It's sort of a medical thing i have. I used to go to the dermatologist A LOT as a kid.

All I do is use a nice intensive lotion like dove or cetaphil or vaseline (i really dont care what brand), and i make sure to use it whenever my skin gets a bit dry, which probably occurs about 4 times a day.

While showering, it's best to not use a strong hard soap. For me, Irish Spring murders my skin and I get eczema-- I have to use Dove or similar soaps. And of course, really hot showers are not good for the skin. After showering or shaving, I use a moisturizing lotion. I think it is especially critical to use a nice moisturizing lotion after showering for your skin. I have to take a shower maybe twice a day. And before I sleep, moisturizers are pretty good. For the oily face thing, that neutrogena cleanser thing is pretty good. It's much better than washing your face in hot water until the oil rinses off.

other stuff: having an airfan directly facing you for long periods of time is bad too. drinking only water and using stuff with aloe and vitamin e is a good idea as well. as a kid, i used to have to keep an aloe vera patch in the yard. that thing got murdered lol.

If your skin is really that dry, what are you doing showering twice a day? That's only going to make things worse. Also, Irish Spring is not soap. It is an industrial chemical hazard suitable for dirty bombs and the commission of war crimes. Dove is about as gentle as you'll get from a drug store, but there is more suitable stuff out there if you have really dry skin. For a facial cleanser, you're better off with Nivea Sensitive than Neutrogena, though I'd say you're better off with Baxter's of California, AL Algae, or Urth than either of those.

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried aloe vera juice?

Augh. As a general rule, if something is ever suggested on acne.com, remember not to ever, ever do it. I still remember the gigantic threads proclaiming the secret to fighting acne: eating nothing but apples. Forever.

Well damn then, time to rethink my regimen .

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There's really no gentle way to put it. Clinique makes some of the worst products in the industry. There relaunch a year or so ago was the slightest of improvements, but when you're that bad, it almost has to be.

Origins is hit and miss, but generally decent. I've heard nothing credibly glowing about them, but my friend used one or two of their products for a while and she said it wasn't bad. At their pricepoint, though, I think you can do better.

Not close enough. Magnetic field dissipate by distance squared. Go to Home Depot.

You tore open your amp just to get a security tag off?

Eep, that is dry. But, if it works, it works. I still think there are some moisturizers that might be heavy enough for you and work better than pure petrolatum, but you probably know women's lines a little better than I do. The few heavy ones I'm familiar with probably aren't heavy enough; on average, men's products are formulated for oilier skin than women's. In any case, yeah, I wouldn't recommend such an extreme occlusive moisturizer as pure petrolatum unless you're skin's that dry, but it can work (vitally) for a very few people.

Fucking dumb and sexy.

You can. It's just a (relatively) gentle castille soap with some natural additives. It isn't bad, but it's pretty drying. I might use it as a body wash, but I'd rather not. I wouldn't use it on my face. Or my hair. Or my teeth. Or my hippies.

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Like I said, we are working on that, with some hot models to go with it

Is that.. is that legal?

I have very dry skin, I use vaseline. Works like a charm. Only issue I've had is my skin's dependent on itnow.

Do. Not. Do this.

A very small number of people with extremely dry skin and extremely dry pores can get away with this. Most can't, and doing this will massively clog the pores on your face and give you and enormous breakout of whiteheads.

Even if you can get away with this, I'd be surprised if it isn't leaving your face extremely shiny. There are better moisturizers for dry skin that pure petrolatum.

I'm sure there are people with more sensitive skin than me, but as far as facial moisturizers go, I can't use any of the traditional "safe" stuff - Clarins, Cetaphil, Decleor, etc... my face ends up getting red and irritated after 6-7 days of using "normal" stuff.

If your skin turns red after less than a week of a daily regimen, your skin is sensitive. That shouldn't happen. Especially with something like Cetaphil, which is one of the more decent drug store brands and is really fairly gentle.

SF ninja crew represent.

Isn't that exact opposite of what ninjas do?

poly, like I said on stfu, go to Home Depot and find a magnet for carrying sheetmetal.