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I think also a part of the problem is his, reference point, Plano TX. Just doing a quick search on google. You get the following statistics:

http://plano.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Of the 10% population breakdown for Asians in Plano TX, nearly 75% is made up of Asian Indians and Chinese, which comprise, if my memory doesn't fail me, the highest social-economic sub-racial income bracket in the US. (See here for census link). In my experience, many south east asians tend to be severely disadvantaged as a group both socio-economically and academically.

Doing another quick search on google (http://www.nextag.com/home-mortgage/2/TX/Plano.html) we find that in Plano TX, the average household income is

$81,551.00 which is nearly double that of the national average ($44,583.00).

This leads me to suspect that the majority of Asians that jl3969 interacts with on a daily basis are from fairly affluent households. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to suggest that more affluent households tend to have the resources and money to help their children with test preparation and that most Chinese and Indian families place more emphasis on study. These factors, IMO, might explain why jl3969 perceives Asians are somehow "intellectually" superior and tend to do better in testing.

yea, i know i come from a rich area (like the rich part of plano, cause that median income is low for my side of town). which is why i believe what i believe even more. because since everybody that lives in my city has a good amount of money, economic factors are out the door. i guess you can claim asian parents are harder on their kids than black parents, but it's not like black parents just let their kids do whatever. to get to where they are and live in the area i live in, they had to work hard themselves, so it's not like there's no pressure at home to do well academically. blacks and whites in my town can afford to send their kids to after school tutors as well as any asian.

looking at my school's report card, i see that asians do better than everybody else.

(http://k-12.pisd.edu/schools/aeis/pshs/pshs_aeis05.pdf)

but you are right about the fact that there are mainly chinese and indians as far as asians go. and by chinese i pretty much mean taiwanese and korean also. but if the system doesn't separate them, i don't either.

i feel like you're clumping "asians" in some huge bracket when it's not that simple. you can't do that simply because the chinese and japanese have roots in america since the 1800's. then came the philipinos. then came the koreans. then came the southeast asians. then came the Indians and Pakistanis...When you break things up that way, you'd probably conclude that you have this middle bunch of folks (the ones that have come to this country due to American fuck ups) that haven't necessarily proven that they are smarter than your average bear. Take a stereotypic look at the hollywood portrayl of the middle bunch, and then you get your generalized idea of how many asians aren't ridiculously rich as everyone in plano tx apparantly is. The whole pitting race against race is pretty retarded imo, but yeah, the fact that asians are clumped as a whole insted of individual sub races, it's kind of hard to standardize your results in what "asians" are generally smarter...

plus there's what 4 billion total in the world? the white logic would apply in numbers there....

yes i understand all of your points. i do know that there are many different lines of heritage as far as each race goes, but my point was that a large majority of asians did not come to this country from any systematic force like blacks did with slavery. the majority of them that did come here came on their own will. Yes there were railroads and such, but still that does not account for the majority of the asian population in america today. most of the ones today either came to fill up engineering jobs before corporations outsourced them TO asia or have parents that came to fill up engineering jobs. therefore, they are more apt to do calculus just like black people are more apt to play basketball. white people have just kind of mellowed off.

i didn't separate asians into their home countries cause nobody separates black people into their home countries. we're talking about race here. the whole point of race is to break down groups of people by basic generalities. there are whites, blacks, browns, yellows. sure there are italians americans and german americans. but theyre still all white. and on the census they're still marked as caucasian. same thing with asians.

and to be clear, if you want to go pure numbers, there will be more dumbshit asians in the world than dumbshit whites. theres just more asians, and since intelligence evens out on the worldwide scale, thats what it comes down to. i'm talking about america. and the asians that made it to america are generally smarter on the average than the blacks or whites in america because of the selection process that got them here..

you're comparing upper-middle class to wealthy university-educated asian immigrants who have the choice and money and means to make it in america to pre-literate african tribesmen brought to america by force. no fucking duh they weren't chosen to make calculators: the goal of slavery was to take the strongest of men to do the intensive physical labor that the reed-thin well-to-do white bodies of the new americans just couldn't seem to handle.

well, they're the general majority that represent their respective groups. most black people in america are descendents of slaves. most asian folks here are either first generation or barely second generation with parents that were brought over here to do engineering or something mathematical. you just reiterated what i said. blacks in america today are descendents of people chosen for their physical prowess, not intellectual. asian in america today are descendents of people chosen for their intellectual prowess, not physical.

blacks have had less than fifty years to establish themselves as an autonomous, self-fulfilling body functioning within american society. asian immigrants have often had generations worth of established stability in their home countries before coming to american and capitalizing on a system that anyone at a certain economic level can capitalize on.

fine, i'll give you that. that doesn't prove a thing. i never said the way this came to be was a fair race or anything. it's just the facts as of this day and age. given another 100 years, it could be completely different.

newsflash: asians are a minority, too. so, how you say that there are more intelligent asians in america than other races is beyond me: the numbers won't add up, no matter how many times you count. you are good at counting... aren't you?

i never said that. i said as a whole, asians in america are smarter than other races in america. i never said as a straight count of numbers, that would be retarded. look at all the test scores and grades when separated by race. asians always score at the highest percentile.

do you even take into the consideration the socio-economic reasons behind your ideas, or are they just incontrovertible facts that are impossible to dislodge from your head?

yes i did, i'd be willing to bet asians in poor school districts do better than blacks in poor districts. and i know for a fact asians in rich school districts definitely do better than blacks.

and i come from plano, tx. there's plenty of everything here. and everybody's generally upper middle class to extremely rich.

and of course asian folks have a harder time than white folks. who doesn't have a harder time compared to white folks. white folks have it the easiest in all the world. it's not a secret that being white is the number one key to success in this country. and i don't mean that in a way that white people are in any way superior. its just rigged in their favor.

fine im ignorant. whatever. its not like asians in america don't do better in every academic area than blacks and mexicans in america. its just now theyre starting to get a leg up on white folks too.

and all that talk about railroads and stuff, thats just a small percent of the asian folks' heritage compared to the general population of asians in america today. most are just second generation at most. their parents mostly ame here to be engineers and such. and they were also generally smarter than their peers back in asia to make it here on those merits.

black folks however, have long long roots intheir heritage tied to slavery, where they weren't exactly chosen for their capability to make calculators at TI.

there's just as smart black/white/brown folks as asian folks around the world, just not in the small slice of the global population called america.

asians in america are smarter than all other races in america. asians all over the world are not. but the ones that came to america in a majority came on their own free will to better themselves. to get that opportunity, they had to beat out a large majority in their home countries. so most asians in america are smarter because they had to get here pretty much based on how good they can do math.

all races are the same when you measure around the world. but as far as this country goes, asian folks today have higher IQ because the way they came to this country favored brains over brawn.

its not a racist thing at all.

this article doesnt really say anything people dont already know

-asians in america are collectively smarter than any other race

-the old white guard won't stand for that just like how they won't stand for any other race either.

-the old white guard twist up the rules to keep themselves on top.

the only difference between the deal with asians and blacks is that asians in america are scarier because they will actually have the intellectual capability to truly challenge white folks.if it were seriously a level playing field.

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