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11 hours ago, Dr_Heech said:
Hey @entertainment, good to see you back. You still got those lvc ducks?
Sure do! The main reason I posted was because I saw that you were still active here!
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Haven't been here for almost ten years but here are a couple pairs, both worn from raw:
Levi's Vintage Clothing (LVC) 1966 Made in USA
LVC 1953 Made in Japan (This is an odd model that has a leather patch but a cut like a 1955. I don't think it was ever made in USA by LVC.)
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^Those look great, but couldn't you make the photos bigger so we can really appreciate what a score you got?
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^This is a good place to start:
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Another cigarette pocket patent:
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I found this US patent for a cigarette pocket for shirts. Now I understand the purpose of the special design which is to keep the pack dry (from perspiration) and to facilitate removal of individual cigarette without pulling the pack out. I believe this patent is the inspiration for the pocket on the workers green covert work shirt that hollows recently posted (and that I just ordered).
http://www.google.com/patents/US1763688?printsec=drawing#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Photos of my LVC white levi's, as promised a while back. I had back to back bouts of flu in the mean time, but am finally up to speed again.
The zipper is a Talon. There are no arcs. Tab is black on white. They came heavily washed but not distressed.
Based on the internal tag, I think they are from 2006. The person writing the limited edition tag made a mistake and wrote one number over another, so I can't tell how many were made. But it must have been around 150.
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having seen the C&J order book backlogs in person last weekend, i can say it's safe to assume that they're not out-sourcing their production...
forgot to share this, a little snap of the shop floor at the c&j factory:
CTB Glad to hear that C&J are prosperous or at least very busy. Here are my approximately six year old monks:
As you say, the quality of the hides is extremely high.
But my real reason for posting is that I wonder how the other Northampton shoes manufacturers are doing. Did you get a sense during your visit there?
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Regarding LV and similar luxury brands:
Some have an outstanding track record and a history/reputation to speak of. Please consider that these brands often have different lines/ranges for different price levels. Certain lines will be done in-house with exceptional craftsmanship level in limited numbers at high prices. Some will be licensed and done outside. Often the price level will tell you what you are looking at. But you guys should know that...
Regarding outsourcing:
Outsourcing does not automatically equals lower quality. If there was no quality to speak of in the first place there will be no loss. If the company does not care for quality control/quality assurance at the outsourcing partner it should not come as a surprise. Also, statistically speaking if you increase your output and outsource (because you take more orders) you will face an increase in quality issues in absolute numbers - the reject rate or claim rate in percentage might actually have improved.
Most companies opting for outsourcing are driven to do so for various reasons:
- increasing output
- price pressure (especially in the US the domestic market is highly competitive and driven by sometimes unrealistic customer expectation)
- lack of skilled workers
and so on...
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Very few luxury brands own all their production facilities. Some that do (at least until recently) are Hermes, Tod's and Loro Piano--not that they always use the best methods, like Goodyear construction on shoes. (I am excluding most of the shoe manufacturers that followers of this thread like, because they are not luxury brands in the general sense.) If you want to know the low down on the methods many of the luxury brands use to produce items at low prices to enable huge markups, I would strongly recommend reading Deluxe: How Luxury Lost its Luster by Dana Thomas. Many manufactures have almost all the work on their products done in China and then have the final finishing done in another country so they can attach a Made in Italy, Japan, USA tag.
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LVC did do a white levi's repro in white as a limited edition. I have a pair. I will post some photos soon.
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I was just on Rivet Head's blog and I thought I had checked into this thread for a moment: pictures of Sansome, El Topo, Roy6, RNR.
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My small Alden collection.
Indy 403. These came apart where the leather upper with the laces attaches to the vamp. I should have returned them but made a repair by myself which is sort of working.
Alden of Carmel black cordovan with commando sole.
Color 8 Chukkas. I got these in december on sale from j crew. Didn't really need them, but couldn't resist 30% off.
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^You would think that if he is charging $3300 for a little e jacket, he could at least throw in free shipping.
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^Fantastic interview, Paul. Truly geek heaven.
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^thanks.
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you still didn't answer the question
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Sorry if I am being dense, but do we pick our top three in no particular order, or do we rank them from 1 to 3? If we are ranking them, how will the different places be assigned points? 3 points for first place, 2 points for second and 1 point for third? I wouldn't want my first place vote to be worth a lot more than my second place vote. I am going to have trouble picking just three.
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erk You win second place in the lvc contest and use the proceeds to buy a pair of lees. Ouch. What does that say for lvc? Just kidding.
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erk In the past, Cultizm has always measured by laying the jeans flat and measuring across and doubling so I have found that their measurement is about 1 to 1.5 inches smaller than a blue in green measurement, depending on the cut of the jeans. You and I need a similar waist size. I have a pair of hair on hides from a couple years ago that have a stated 32 waist and are just about right. (I usually want the blue in green measurement to be 35 to 35.5.)
It really sucks that this version of sufu has eliminated all capitals.
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what ever happened to future rnr?
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Just for reference:
From Paul T's first email about the contest:
If, by the way, you reckon you're not up for this, please let us know so we can alert other people. We want everyone who orders these jeans to commit to wearing them for a year, and providing updates, which we can also put on the Cone website, so this is a competition for people who'll wear these jeans, not put them in the closet.
From the first page of the contest:
Quick points:
1: THis is for people who will wear these jeans, no closet keepers.
2: Do not hassle Roy; he's busy.
3: Each person who gets a pair promises to provide photo updates. These might be used by Roy, or Cone on their website, and of course to give us a happening SuFU thread.
4: Re sizing; follow Roy's advice, but it's your decision. These are a labor of love for Roy. Don't hassle him, or us, please.
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As someone who has enjoyed participating in this contest immensely but has absolutely no chance of winning, I am curious about why we are going to pre-vote before the outside judges get involved. Looking through the picture thread doesn't really take very long. If I were a judge, I would want to be able to pick the winner from among all the contestants.
As to having someone who didn't participate much in the thread become the winner, I guess it is possible, but unlikely. The people who participated the most are also the people with the most evolved fades.
If the contest participants are so anxious to vote, perhaps there could be a parallel vote. It would be interesting to see how the results compared with the selections of the outside judges.
In the end, I don't really care what path the judging takes, but to me, having the outside judges make their own selection from among all the participants just makes more sense.
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Two soaks, one hand wash, one machine wash.
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At one time, any of the non-Sanforized Cone could only be sold semi-officially. Now they're allowed to do it officially, to help keep their looms busy, which is why you see more being used by Raleigh, Left Field, etc. If tho, by the Barneys x RD you mean the one with the pima fill, I think you'll find that went thru a slightly different design process...
yes, I believe the Roy jeans are loomstate. I just don't understand why they call it "Non-Sanforized", which is a pretty meaningless term.
Kiya's initial post was confusing because, as you say, he wrote about "non-sanforized" denim. The product listing on the Self-Edge website now says, "This is no surprise considering his involvement with the development of this fabric, a feat which we couldn't believe when we first heard that this was the first time in decades where Cone has produced a loomstate denim." Even though the denim is now described as "loomstate" rather than "non-sanforized" I am still confounded by the description since the Roy X Cone's have loomstate denim.
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Levi's Vintage Clothing
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The 1873 are the ones with the yoke and I also found some Made in Turkey ones without a yoke. The fabric on the 555 1873s is so much nicer.
Great memory about the fountain pens. My main interest lately is leather jackets so I have been hanging out at VLJ. Should check in at DB too.
This was the account I created when Superfuture had that long hiatus during an upgrade and DB started. I think my old account became invalid because of the exclamation point in the name.