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I sold him the jeans. They have NOT had an initial soak. There is roping on the hem because I was going to soak them, dipped the bottom, then thought better of it (were never going to fit). You can see that the patch and everything else is starched and stiff. Sorry about any confusion.

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RJB 103BSP SZ 33 from self edge. 2 hot soaks then chain hemmed.

http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=570

Waist: 35

Front Rise: 9

Back Rise: 13.5

Thigh: 11.75

Knee: 8.25

Hem: 8

Inseam 30.5

Worn a few times. Too modern a fit for me. Although the denim on these is so sweet.

Selling for $334------->$120 shipped.