Fourtyounce48

Look at the sisig dish.  The flavors and dish is 99% authentic.  The preparation/technique was elevated.  The ingredients was elevated.  But that's basically sisig.  It's just been presented much in a better way.

maybe shit could gain popularity by that of fusing and utilizing outside influences.  it may gain popularity, but guarantee that most patrons would choose the fusion rather than real filipino food.

 

think of all the fundamental differences between filipino food and other asian shit.

like i mentioned, there are many others in the u.s. that have no need to implement outside crutches.

I know what you're saying but you're overvaluing the idea of fusion.  Yes they mentioned it the video but that's more to due with the pairing of components.  The flavor and majority of components that I saw was authentic.

The dish in the first video may not be the typical way to eat Filipino food but each component was a specific Filipino dish.

i thought the thread was about filipino food.

 

now it's about filipino fusion.

Some of it was.

The sisig and the kare kare was spot on.  

The prep and ingredients were probably better tho.

man this thread sucks.

 

no hate to the op, but if you really want to argue the virtues of filipino foods then we can correspond via pm or chat it up tomorrow or something.

The thing is I'm not arguing the virtues of Filipino cuisine.  I've stated numerous times that I agree that it falls below other Asian cuisine.  

I do think that you haven't had good Filipino food not because it doesn't exist but you just haven't experienced it yet.  

I just disagree with your premise that since you've had a small sample size of Filipino food and you didn't enjoy then it sucks as whole.  Could it be you've just not had good Filipino food?  

cute how  you edit shit.

 

 

"It's not 100% authentic but this might be a good way to interpret filipino dishes in a way to gain popularity."

Edited by Fourtyounce48, Today, 11:00 AM.

I didn't edit it to misconstrue something.  I added it even before I saw your response.

I'm not trying to prove your wrong or right.  I'm just exchanging ideas here.

Heres another one.

my point is, is that most people in the world like pizza.  why?  cause it's universally palatable.  

Like I said, there's enough people that have had good pizza to make it popular which enables corp to take advantage of it and make a profit out of selling unpalatable pizza to ignorant consumers.

I don't think its fair to say that most people have had a chance to consume a great filipino dish.  And that's not because it doesn't exist.

okay, i'lll play.

 

why in your own personal opinion do you think that the popularity of filipino food will not rival thai or viet cuisines?

 

i don't get your schtick about how filipino food is misrepresented.  you mentioned that filipino establishments  EVEN cater to filipino patrons while implementing subpar ingredients.  maybe that is just how shit is done.  filipinos still eat that shit, while other people in the u.s. don't really care for it.  

 

so even if fresh produce was used, how would you personally market or represent filipino food?

In essence it's not as "good" as say Thai or Vietnamese cuisine.

It doesn't have the sophistication in technique or ingredients used.  I mean just looking at the most popular dishes the seasoning or spices used are limited to basically soy, vinegar, salt and pepper.  The depth of flavor or nuance flavors you get from other cuisines is just not there.

Here's a video of a place that might be doing it right.  

It's not 100% authentic but this might be a good way to interpret filipino dishes in a way to gain popularity.

well dominos sells millions of pizzas in america a year even without the use of fresh ingredients.  i have yet to hear of "ferdinand's filipino foods" offering balut home delivery.  

LOL, true but to be fair that's due to the corp backing. but that's really besides the point of my initial example.

You can't make a good pizza using Domino's ingredients.

i think i did a decent job at answering yr questions. and i'm pretty sure that deep down inside, even before this thread's production, that you already knew these answers (giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Yes decent.

Yes I do have my own personal opinion why I don't think its popularity will rival other cuisines such as Thai or Vietnamese.

I do however think it hasn't been properly represented which would help better it's reputation to a certain degree.

so basically 

 

filipino restaurants catering directly to filipino patrons use subpar ingredients

in order to "elevate" filipino food fresh produce is necessary

filipino food - "it's more of a cuisine where the appreciation stems from growing up eating it"

the assumption that most people, myself included have only eaten in "turo x2" quality establishments

 

ok.

Yes it would help.

Imagine judging pizza if the ingredients used were similar to what Dominos use in their pizzas.

I don't have any vested interest really.  I'm just curious.

I certainly don't think it's one of top cuisines in the world and would be really surprised if it got mainstream.  I think it's more of a cuisine where the appreciation stems from growing up eating it.

As far as your distaste for it, it actually goes hand in hand with the use of crappy ingredients.  Most filipino restaurants cater directly Filipinos and often they subpar ingredients to lower overhead, pretty much giving up quality.  I know it's sounds like an absurd notion but typical Filipino mentality seems to be short-sighted.

I believe that "elevating" Filipino food is not trying to make it fancy but simply not skimming on quality but using the best and freshest ingredients.  Sadly what's being given to the public is not this.

I'm sure the dishes you had would have been much better if this was done.  It's probably safe to say that most people, which might include your experience has only eaten in turo-turo (pre cooked/buffet) quality establishments. 

overall all i think your people's food isn't that good.  only shit that i thought was okay was lechun and hollow x2.

it's next to impossible to "elevate" filipino food, because let's face it most of the shit is primitive.  it's like putting a silk hat on a pig

Have you tried soup dishes like nilaga or sinigang?  or noodle dishes like pansit bihon? or lumpia (eggrolls) or the various BBQ meats?

These dishes are typically the gateway dishes.

overall all i think your people's food isn't that good.  only shit that i thought was okay was lechun and hollow x2.

it's next to impossible to "elevate" filipino food, because let's face it most of the shit is primitive.  it's like putting a silk hat on a pig

damn, that's harsh, i appreciate the honesty but is there anything you appreciate less in terms of food?

What are people perception of Filipino food? Why hasn't it caught on the way other Asian cuisines has in the US?

Andrew Zimmern has mentioned that he believes Filipino cuisine is the next big thing for the US food scene. Having grown up eating Filipino dishes and believing that it does have a lot to offer I don't see this happening.

As much as I love my culture's food it's not the most sophisticated cuisine. I liken it to soul food of the south. It's comfort food. I noticed many restaurants trying to "elevate" it by trying to make it fancy food. I think this is the wrong approach. It's not meant to be eaten this way. To truly elevate a filipino dish, all that's truly needed would be to use the best ingredients possible.

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