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**Tellason 16.5 oz Jean Jacket - XXL**  

I have a SZ Type II and Type III with me as samples, let me know if anyone wants any pictures or know any details.

 

I mean, might as well if you're asking. I've been trying to get a type II jacket from SZ for a long time. I keep getting my money refunded by taobaofocus

Thinking about one of these type 3s. Like the look of the Tellason cut, just never been massively in love with the Cone Mills fade. Or any of the slimmish type 3's with hand pockets out there I've missed? Have a IH-526L at the moment which I'm gonna sell due to sizing and looking for a 12oz-16oz fabric for my next one.  Id get this one if it came in a nice raw fabric: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/jalana/item/levi-70797-0001/ but can't seem to find one.

 

Tellason

http://www.meadowweb.com/art/tellason-jean-jacket-16-5-oz.php

 

Big John Rare

http://www.okayamadenim.com/products/big-john-rare-jacket?variant=1112740144

 

Big John KOIAI2

http://www.okayamadenim.com/collections/tops/products/big-john-koiai2-12oz-selvedge-denim-jacket

 

Thanks for any thoughts

 

I have the Tellason jacket for sale in XXL. It's a really nice jacket. The denim is smooth, consistent and rigid. I bought it on impulse and want a type II instead. 

Anyone know of a non-washed heavy, >15 oz, type II jacket?

 

edit* Need a 44/46. don't know what size i need. Whatever is similar to an American XL

Yes, because everything has to be positive. Sorry, but just because he was talking about it before LD started doesn't make it a good idea.

 

Why not? What if it comes out correct and he makes a good 24 oz fabric?

i mean, you have to agree that he does bring up a point about continuing promotions and sales without fulfilling stuff that is been ordered in nov. no? 

 

i mean if there is a traffic jam, you dont solve it by adding more cars into the mix.

 

edit: that being said, i ordered in feb. and havent really thought about it since its such a good deal.  i wish LD & co only the best

 

He didn't bring up the point. You did but Roman does need to stop the sales but keep the promotions going. Only way a brand is going to be recognized is by advertising. LD has not taken anyone's money and ran. So far people have gotten their full order, partial order or has requested a refund. LD does not have their priorities in order but they are producing. If you don't like them, don't bother with them. If you have patience and enough clothes to wait, you can't beat what they are doing. The more people that back out, the faster I'll get my pending orders.

Shouldn't he stick to getting orders out, and sizing issues fixed before he starts on something like this? Just doesn't make sense on my end

 

so far everything you've said in this thread has been negative. Yes they need to get orders out, yes they have made mistakes on making some people's orders, and no there are no sizing issues. So far the three people that have posted what they ordered have been satisfied with the sizing and product. The 24 oz fabric has been talked about by Roman before any of this clusterfuck took place. Seems like you want an up and coming brand to fail for the hell of it. If you don't like LD don't, don't post anything.

What is the current turnaround time for something that is ordered lets say... today?

 

maybe 3 - 5 months. LD is so backed up with orders that they really need to work themselves out of it. That being said, whatever you order will be a quality product. You can page back to see my shirt. They have little to no flaws with their construction.

 

I would say just order whatever and just try not to think about it. Everything is priced relatively cheap so you won't be out much money. Just plan accordingly. LD won't take your money and run. They deliver on their products even though the wait time is long 

Lookin good Splash

Ok so true to his word Sal has taken to my plight like a starving dog to a bone , I have the relevant information I was waiting on and now my order is sorted .

Looking forward to getting said products .

 

I knew everything would workout. No one will answer the door if you don't knock. 

@bigblack. Nice call on the purple buttons. LD may take a while, but those semi-custom options are really nice. 

 

Is that a standard XXL or did you get that one custom made to your size? 

 

I'm waiting on western shirt in 12.5 oz natural cone denim. Thanks for giving me the resolve to continue waiting. 

 

It's a XXL slim. The natural denim should look real nice as western shirt.

^^^^^ I hear what you are saying however this is how I see it , a company is only as good as the people you have working for you yes Laura has dropped the ball with the emails I have sent directly to lawless however it's my understanding that both Laure and Sol represent lawless on the kickstarter site , not that I have been told this but through observations of the updates and earlier griviences being sorted out by Sol , at the end of the day management are to blame and as Roman is the boss and would most likely deli gated that type of menial work down the line I'd say that it falls directly so the sales manager .

No offence to you but I am so not going to join join a denim forum to jeans iv never heard of before last year so I can mail a guy and tell him to reply to questions that I have mailed directly to them already privately and publicly put the same questions on the kickstarter site !

If you have the time go and have a look at the Naked & famous thread from the start , there were a lot of nay sayers and trepidation but never a bad word about communication , if they want to get a good foothold in the market good communication will make or break you , just because you deliver a good product does not guarantee that you will be a return customer if you get fucked around for eight months , I'm sure this company will do well but not with return customers and at the end of the day all pyramid schemes go bust .

If that's how you feel, then thats how you feel. I know customer service goes a long way for a company but I'm just trying to get you what you bought or at least an explanation. Remember, it was a risk funding a kickstarted company. Sal also didn't start working for LD until well after the kickstarted campaign. You can actually message him here to DirtyDenim1.

 

I remember when the Naked & Famous thread was started, I was so excited while reading what Brandon had to offer. I really wish I had bought the very first 21 oz they released. I tried them on and everything but didn't pull the trigger. sigh regrets

Thats a great gesture bigblack but I'm the type of person that likes to see how things like this pan out as to give a fair critique .

Just had a look at Gustinfriends again and l see Sal had time to load pictures and share some Figjam but no time to answer questions from emails and the now forgotten kickstarter .

 

Sal actually does not get sent the emails. Laura, the sales manager receives those emails and she is the one that is the bad responder.

I have emailed the info@lawless .com many times with no response.  If you make an account on gustinfriends, you can PM him or the LD website and send a message through there, those messages are sent to him. Sal is good at responding but it may take a day or two to get a response from him. I don't recommend just letting it pan out. 

Thanks for posting the link to that other site , it gave me a very clear picture of who I'm dealing with there .

I so want them to be as successful as N&F but find the purchase experience with them less than helpfull when it comes to information .

I'm not even sure where I could start with the unprofessional service in acquiring information regarding there jackets , before I go to much further I should state that my purchase was through the kickstarter campaign , numerous emails and months of waiting for the form to fill in the sizes and after that I can not get them to respond on where to find pictures to do a comparison of the western / work cafe racer jacket , now I know the cut is similar to the shirts but hey if you're dishing out four bills for it you want to see it , anyway two mails to their LD address no response one to the kickstarter private mail and after another two weeks of waiting three messages on the public message board associated to their campaign , then in a kickstarter created update to the public message board they feed you the " you are so important to us bullshit " and if you have any queries get in contact with us , well I'm asking myself how the hell do l do that iv tried everything short of Jedi mind tricks and then I'm presented with a link that has the fine people of LD answering any and every question on that site when thay have all but abandoned the folk waiting there reply back at KS .

And you know what rubs me the wrong way the most is posting a link to some guys profile who backed their project and opening it up for discussion , so unprofessional I can't even pathos what kind of litigation that could open up if the guy got wind of it ( Sol you should have a good hard look at yourself ) it almost constitutes online bullying , if I were Roman I'd be giving you a very surveyed lecture about professionalism .

So to summarise iv had to order one style due to not being able to see the alternative so I hope the wait is worth it as with a two month turn around I'm now looking at the end of April for something I was ment to get last year .

 

 

I'll never understand why some companies have so much trouble with just replying to emails and/or giving proper information. If your inbox grows beyond what you can manage, get some fucking help, don't just ignore it.

 

LD is pretty bad with emailing people back. I had the most success by just calling. Since you're in another country it may be hard, but some people that are state side are afraid of picking up the phone and laying down some force. I can understand where you're coming from as I'm trying to get Sauce Zhan to sell me a type  II. He is by far the worst at responding. Splash Pitman, if you don't mind giving me your order info, I can make a call to them for you. I believe my continuous calling help expedite my order a bit.

Interesting review. I wonder if the turnaround time will stay that high, or if it's just because of the discounts they gave and the resulting higher order numbers.

 

The shirt still looks very nice and the snap button and thread choices are what draws me to it, like you I'd love a shirt with purple buttons or something similar to set it apart

 

Reviews for the "Lawless experience" are very mixed all over the web. I'll wait and see if they work out those kinks.

 

The turnaround time was so long because of all their transitions with kickstart orders and retooling their business model. Also the huge sale literally saw thousands of orders in little as a few weeks. They really took on more they could chew for what they were at the time. Q4 of 2014 was definitely experimental for Lawless and I hope they have everything settled by Q3/Q4 of 2015. Once the storm settles, LD SHOULD be sailing smooth.

I posted a full review here if anyone wants to read it. There's a couple more pics there.

http://gustinfriends.proboards.com/post/18745/thread

Yeah, that shirt looks nice! Stitching looks neat and the snap buttons look great.

How long did the order take overall?

I placed my order October 2nd and I received it yesterday, Jan 22nd. 16 weeks to the day.

I just received my 15 oz Nihon Menpu western shirt from Lawless denim. All I can say is patience is a virtue. This shirt came out way better than I expected. Here are some pics

 

 

I have been denied once again for a SZ type II in a 44

Megatron, can you drop some info on your colabo with SZ? I am a fell 38er and would love to hear what you have done. I just bought a type II today in 44 that I am really excited about.

 

Quick question, about how long did it take for you to receive your jeans from when SZ sent them?

 

edit. nvm, you're in UK 

Yup, at Self Edge we've got some of their jeans in size 38 in stock now at our SF store.  Come by and try em on.

 

Thanks Kiya. I'll try to make it out there one day. Do you know if you have the 3109 in 38?

Does SG make jeans in 38? Could I get a 36 and do a quick cold soak? I want to get a pair of 3109

I have a very lightly used 16.5 oz jean jacket in XXL that I want to sell. Type II's have really grown on me so I want to move this along to someone more interested.